medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Christopher Crockett wrote:
> From: John Briggs
>
>> I now find that John James doesn't believe it either.
>
> JJ's ideas always need to be used with great caution.
>
> he has a good Eye for stone, but his scholarship is pretty
> consistently sloppy.
He doesn't think like an art historian - so his work will probably take
decades to properly analyse.
>> He points out
>
> where?
Here:
http://orgs.uww.edu/avista/avistapdfs/afj1101.pdf
>> that the timescale given in Abbot Suger's account (and modern
>> re-tellings) of three (or four) years for the building of the choir isn't
>> sufficient to build from crypt to high vaults. There wasn't time for all
>> the mortar to set, for one thing.
>
> sounds reasonable, though it must be remembered that, building on a
> pre-existing crypt, foundation work was relatively minimal.
No, I think Crosby shows that the crypt is essentially Suger's.
> and, one of the inherent great advantages to 'gothic' (even 'early
> gothic') construction was a considerable savings in materials, labor
> and (therefore) expense.
>
>> Or room for all the masons required to work together simultaneously.
>
> mmmm... would have to see his reasoning on this.
>
>> He suggests that only the ground stage of Suger's 'choir' was
>> completed, and that the chevet was roofed over at arcade level.
>
> sounds possible, almost.
>
> except, no clearstory level at all, for over 50 years?
Well, they carried on using the Carolingian church, don't forget - the
'choir' was a retrochoir.
John Briggs
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