From what I read, it was more that employers were complaining about days
work lost in their employees. Are people no longer allowed to stay off work
if ill?  I suppose if they see a lawyer about house moves they have to take
annual leave, maybe that is the real problem?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Caldwell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Demise of primary care?


> Oh i think its going to be great! i'll work shifts 8-2 or 2-8; monday and
> tuesday off if work a weekend. that'll mean only 2 GPs in on monday
morning
> most weeks (allowing for stress related sickness and annual leave) for 15K
> pts, then pts will really moan to politicians about docs being not
> available. then we can reply to the DOH "we told u so".
> the Times article made a v good point that the vast majority of pt are
> young, old, chronically sick for whom extended hours has no real advantage
> (in fact the young and the old actually want staggered surgeries during
the
> day according to our pt survey) and those on shift work have no problem
> getting to am or pm surgeries. i actually think the pressure is indirectly
> from the hospitals saying that the OOH arrangements by PCTs (pace cock up)
> have caused a large rise in ambulance costs, A+E and hospital emergency
> admissions. The overspent PCTs (who r suppose to be on our side in the
very
> nature of the initials) are also reporting similar to the DOH as they have
> to pay the emergency admissions.
>
>
> >From: Declan Fox <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: GP-UK <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Demise of primary care?
> >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 08:44:40 +0100
> >
> >Yes a bit more to this, isn't there? We do have wonderful approval
ratings
> >here in the UK which must be the main reason nLabour hates us so much.
> >Problem is, we don't use our popularity. I was feeling a bit cranky when
I
> >wrote that Brit pts have been indoctrinated by the state--I think they
> >have, to some extent, and they seem unable to put the blame for poor
> >services squarely where it belongs, but I think that if we had leaders
> >willing to forego their gongs and put their heads up with shouts of Aux
> >Armes Citoyens! now and again---which is what happens in Canada--we would
> >all be the better for it.
> >Declan
> >
> >
> >
> ><<On 8/21/07, Declan Fox <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > >> Jel
> > >>
> > >> <<Have been part of one day of job action by docs here over the last
6
> > >> years.
> > >> How many years is it since the docs in the UK stood up for
> >themselves?>>
> > >>
> > >> And Canadian patients support their docs by and large when they take
> > >> action. Brit patients have been indoctrinated by the state.
> > >> Our BMA leaders and negotiators are not leaders and that is our
problem
> > >> here.
> > >>
> > >> Declan
> > >>
> >
> >
> >I have to say our patients do support us. Any politician with the
> >approval ratings that we get from our patients would be cock-a-hoop!
> >
> >Cheers Geoff
> >
> >--
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