will look and learn. ta,
saed
D F J Wood wrote:
> Don't worry, it's good to have some fire here. You sound like I was when I first turned up on the board in 1999... (have a look in the archives!)
>
> David.
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A forum for critical and radical geographers
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salvatore
>> Engel-DiMauro
>> Sent: 03 August 2007 15:27
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>
>> you are right, i am reading too much into the vacancy
>> description. it would be more constructive, however, to have
>> explicit qualification as to the aims of the vacancy and how
>> terrorism is defined, for example. my apologies for sounding
>> offensive and for giving the impression of being suspicious of
>> Jon. i am actually suspicious of the institution, not Jon
>> (and having a job is not the point here, it is what one does
>> with the job that can contribute to an egalitarian society,
>> rather than jobs as ends in themselves). cheers,
>>
>> saed
>>
>> D F J Wood wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be careful of infering things that aren't there and
>>>
>> calling them 'implicit'...
>>
>>> Nowhere in the call does it offer a definition of terrorism
>>>
>> in general that excludes the sort of terrorism you talk about.
>> Nowhere in the call does in prescribe a set answer either, so
>> asking about Jon's 'strategy' as if he must be ideologically
>> suspect until proved otherwise is rather uncalled for.
>>
>>> I presume you have made a thorough study of Jon's work and
>>>
>> are able to offer a comprehensive reading of his political
>> stance to support what you believe is implied?
>>
>>> And I am sorry, but just because you happen to be vocal in
>>>
>> expressing a particular view on a particular subject does not
>> mean that everyone else who happens to be here is apolitical,
>> unengaged and non-critical.
>>
>>> BTW, do you have a job? ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Salvatore Engel-DiMauro [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>> Sent: 03 August 2007 15:09
>>>> To: D F J Wood
>>>> Cc: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>
>>>> right, and what is at stake here is the very material
>>>>
>> terrorism meted
>>
>>>> out to millions of people in public places, in cities, through the
>>>> sort of terrorism that is conveniently not recognised as
>>>>
>> such if done
>>
>>>> through state institutions. so, implicitly, the vacancy seems to
>>>> exclude this entirely, as it would contradict the mainstream,
>>>> government view of what counts as terrorism and then also
>>>> problematise the role of the UK government as a terrorist
>>>> organisation in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. but Jon Coaffee should tell
>>>> us what strategy he is aiming at, up front, in recruiting critical
>>>> geographers.
>>>> that for me would be reasonable, instead of presuming. what are the
>>>> aims? if only to offer a job, then why in this forum at all?
>>>>
>>>> saed
>>>>
>>>> D F J Wood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well to some extent this is entirely true - you only have
>>>>>
>> to look at
>>
>>>>> all sorts of research on the influence of new technologies
>>>>>
>> on urban
>>
>>>>> form (Graham and Marvin, 2001; Thrift and French, 2003; some
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> of my own
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> work too) to see that one can perfectly well imagine a society in
>>>>> which the ability to socially construct space has been curtailed
>>>>> through material means. The question is whether we want a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> society in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> which the fabric of cities becomes more important than social
>>>>> construction. The call specifically mentions environments that are
>>>>> "effective and acceptable." The question of acceptability is not
>>>>> defined tightly here, so I can imagine multiple ethical,
>>>>>
>> political,
>>
>>>>> social, cultural and other standards by which you might
>>>>>
>> judge such a
>>
>>>>> thing. But to argue that form cannot (or indeed should not)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> influence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> behaviour and culture is as naive as pure technological
>>>>>
>> determinism.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ---------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> *From:* A forum for critical and radical geographers
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of
>>>>> *Featherstone, Dave
>>>>> *Sent:* 03 August 2007 14:43
>>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok-
>>>>>
>>>>> but I think the issue is that this research agenda appears top
>>>>> be framed in a way where it appears that terrorism is an issue
>>>>> which can be 'designed' out of cities, and that is what would
>>>>> appear to be the issue not what the results will
>>>>>
>> be.... This kind
>>
>>>>> of perspective has been challenged for a whole range of
>>>>> questions- but is particularly problematic in relation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> to issues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> of terrorism where the relational context is so
>>>>>
>> significant... as
>>
>>>>> Pete and Salvatore have suggested....
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ---------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> *From:* A forum for critical and radical geographers
>>>>>
>> on behalf of
>>
>>>>> D F J Wood
>>>>> *Sent:* Fri 03/08/2007 14:31
>>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>>
>>>>> Before we all get too carried away, it does not
>>>>>
>> specify what the
>>
>>>>> results of the study should be. I am rather wary of attempts to
>>>>> prescribe certain 'objects' of research through
>>>>>
>> ideology (whether
>>
>>>>> I happen to share that ideology or not). It is
>>>>>
>> perfectly possible
>>
>>>>> to imagine critical methods and critical results from such a
>>>>> study. It's clear that the PI wants critical geogaphers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> to apply...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>>> >From: A forum for critical and radical geographers
>>>>> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salvatore
>>>>> >Engel-DiMauro
>>>>> >Sent: 03 August 2007 14:23
>>>>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> >Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>> >
>>>>> >i concur entirely. this is preposterous. or, what exactly does
>>>>> >such a post have to do with critical geography? it seems
>>>>> >counterintuitive to me.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >saed
>>>>> >
>>>>> >North, Peter wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> How about starting with not trying to dominate the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> middle east to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >> secure the world's diminishing oil stocks?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Peter North
>>>>> >> Department of Geography
>>>>> >> University of Liverpool
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> From: A forum for critical and radical geographers on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> behalf of Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >> Coaffee
>>>>> >> Sent: Fri 03/08/2007 08:27
>>>>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> >> Subject: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Apologies for cross postings
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Research Associates (two posts)
>>>>> >> Resilient Planning, Design and Management for Countering
>>>>> >Terrorism in
>>>>> >> Public Places - Centre for Urban Policy Studies School of
>>>>> >Environment
>>>>> >> and Development The University of Manchester
>>>>> >> http://www.jobs.ac.uk/jobfiles/ZG027.html
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Closing date: 28/08/2007 Salary - £26,666 - £30,012 p.a.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The School of Environment and Development is seeking
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> to appoint two
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >> Research Associates to work with the Centre for Urban Policy
>>>>> Studies
>>>>> >> (CUPS), tenable from October 2007 for 24 months in the first
>>>>> >instance.
>>>>> >> You will contribute to research connected to an EPSRC funded
>>>>> project
>>>>> >> focusing on Resilient Design (RE-DESIGN) for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> counter-terrorism:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >> Decision support for designing effective and acceptable
>>>>> >resilient places.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You will liaise with the Re-Design team to help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> develop a unique
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >> multi- disciplinary research framework for countering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> terrorism in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >> crowded public places.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You will have a PhD (or at least submitted by
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> contract start) in a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >> cognate discipline such as urban planning, human geography,
>>>>> >political
>>>>> >> science, international relations, urban sociology,
>>>>> architecture; and
>>>>> >> experience of conducting qualitative case study based
>>>>> >research to a high standard.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Informal enquiries
>>>>> >> Dr Jon Coaffee
>>>>> >> Tel: 0161 275 6903
>>>>> >> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >--
>>>>> >Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>>>>> >Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>>>>> >1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>>>>> >tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>>>>> >e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Senior Editor
>>>>> >Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Editor
>>>>> >ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies
>>>>> >http://www.acme-journal.org/
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>>>> Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>>>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>>>> tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>>>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> Senior Editor
>>>> Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>>>>
>>>> Editor
>>>> ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies
>>>> http://www.acme-journal.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
>> Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
>> tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
>> e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Senior Editor
>> Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
>>
>> Editor
>> ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies
>> http://www.acme-journal.org/
>>
>>
--
Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro
Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz
1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561
tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
Senior Editor
Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism
Editor
ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies
http://www.acme-journal.org/
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