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will look and learn. ta, saed D F J Wood wrote: > Don't worry, it's good to have some fire here. You sound like I was when I first turned up on the board in 1999... (have a look in the archives!) > > David. > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A forum for critical and radical geographers >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salvatore >> Engel-DiMauro >> Sent: 03 August 2007 15:27 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester >> >> you are right, i am reading too much into the vacancy >> description. it would be more constructive, however, to have >> explicit qualification as to the aims of the vacancy and how >> terrorism is defined, for example. my apologies for sounding >> offensive and for giving the impression of being suspicious of >> Jon. i am actually suspicious of the institution, not Jon >> (and having a job is not the point here, it is what one does >> with the job that can contribute to an egalitarian society, >> rather than jobs as ends in themselves). cheers, >> >> saed >> >> D F J Wood wrote: >> >>> I'd be careful of infering things that aren't there and >>> >> calling them 'implicit'... >> >>> Nowhere in the call does it offer a definition of terrorism >>> >> in general that excludes the sort of terrorism you talk about. >> Nowhere in the call does in prescribe a set answer either, so >> asking about Jon's 'strategy' as if he must be ideologically >> suspect until proved otherwise is rather uncalled for. >> >>> I presume you have made a thorough study of Jon's work and >>> >> are able to offer a comprehensive reading of his political >> stance to support what you believe is implied? >> >>> And I am sorry, but just because you happen to be vocal in >>> >> expressing a particular view on a particular subject does not >> mean that everyone else who happens to be here is apolitical, >> unengaged and non-critical. >> >>> BTW, do you have a job? ;-) >>> >>> David. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Salvatore Engel-DiMauro [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>> Sent: 03 August 2007 15:09 >>>> To: D F J Wood >>>> Cc: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester >>>> >>>> right, and what is at stake here is the very material >>>> >> terrorism meted >> >>>> out to millions of people in public places, in cities, through the >>>> sort of terrorism that is conveniently not recognised as >>>> >> such if done >> >>>> through state institutions. so, implicitly, the vacancy seems to >>>> exclude this entirely, as it would contradict the mainstream, >>>> government view of what counts as terrorism and then also >>>> problematise the role of the UK government as a terrorist >>>> organisation in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. but Jon Coaffee should tell >>>> us what strategy he is aiming at, up front, in recruiting critical >>>> geographers. >>>> that for me would be reasonable, instead of presuming. what are the >>>> aims? if only to offer a job, then why in this forum at all? >>>> >>>> saed >>>> >>>> D F J Wood wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Well to some extent this is entirely true - you only have >>>>> >> to look at >> >>>>> all sorts of research on the influence of new technologies >>>>> >> on urban >> >>>>> form (Graham and Marvin, 2001; Thrift and French, 2003; some >>>>> >>>>> >>>> of my own >>>> >>>> >>>>> work too) to see that one can perfectly well imagine a society in >>>>> which the ability to socially construct space has been curtailed >>>>> through material means. The question is whether we want a >>>>> >>>>> >>>> society in >>>> >>>> >>>>> which the fabric of cities becomes more important than social >>>>> construction. The call specifically mentions environments that are >>>>> "effective and acceptable." The question of acceptability is not >>>>> defined tightly here, so I can imagine multiple ethical, >>>>> >> political, >> >>>>> social, cultural and other standards by which you might >>>>> >> judge such a >> >>>>> thing. But to argue that form cannot (or indeed should not) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> influence >>>> >>>> >>>>> behaviour and culture is as naive as pure technological >>>>> >> determinism. >> >>>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> --------- >>>> >>>> >>>>> *From:* A forum for critical and radical geographers >>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of >>>>> *Featherstone, Dave >>>>> *Sent:* 03 August 2007 14:43 >>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester >>>>> >>>>> Ok- >>>>> >>>>> but I think the issue is that this research agenda appears top >>>>> be framed in a way where it appears that terrorism is an issue >>>>> which can be 'designed' out of cities, and that is what would >>>>> appear to be the issue not what the results will >>>>> >> be.... This kind >> >>>>> of perspective has been challenged for a whole range of >>>>> questions- but is particularly problematic in relation >>>>> >>>>> >>>> to issues >>>> >>>> >>>>> of terrorism where the relational context is so >>>>> >> significant... as >> >>>>> Pete and Salvatore have suggested.... >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> --------- >>>> >>>> >>>>> *From:* A forum for critical and radical geographers >>>>> >> on behalf of >> >>>>> D F J Wood >>>>> *Sent:* Fri 03/08/2007 14:31 >>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester >>>>> >>>>> Before we all get too carried away, it does not >>>>> >> specify what the >> >>>>> results of the study should be. I am rather wary of attempts to >>>>> prescribe certain 'objects' of research through >>>>> >> ideology (whether >> >>>>> I happen to share that ideology or not). It is >>>>> >> perfectly possible >> >>>>> to imagine critical methods and critical results from such a >>>>> study. It's clear that the PI wants critical geogaphers >>>>> >>>>> >>>> to apply... >>>> >>>> >>>>> David. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >-----Original Message----- >>>>> >From: A forum for critical and radical geographers >>>>> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Salvatore >>>>> >Engel-DiMauro >>>>> >Sent: 03 August 2007 14:23 >>>>> >To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> >Subject: Re: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester >>>>> > >>>>> >i concur entirely. this is preposterous. or, what exactly does >>>>> >such a post have to do with critical geography? it seems >>>>> >counterintuitive to me. >>>>> > >>>>> >saed >>>>> > >>>>> >North, Peter wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> How about starting with not trying to dominate the >>>>> >>>>> >>>> middle east to >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> secure the world's diminishing oil stocks? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Peter North >>>>> >> Department of Geography >>>>> >> University of Liverpool >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >> From: A forum for critical and radical geographers on >>>>> >>>>> >>>> behalf of Jon >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> Coaffee >>>>> >> Sent: Fri 03/08/2007 08:27 >>>>> >> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> >> Subject: Research Vacancies - University of Manchester >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Apologies for cross postings >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Research Associates (two posts) >>>>> >> Resilient Planning, Design and Management for Countering >>>>> >Terrorism in >>>>> >> Public Places - Centre for Urban Policy Studies School of >>>>> >Environment >>>>> >> and Development The University of Manchester >>>>> >> http://www.jobs.ac.uk/jobfiles/ZG027.html >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Closing date: 28/08/2007 Salary - £26,666 - £30,012 p.a. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The School of Environment and Development is seeking >>>>> >>>>> >>>> to appoint two >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> Research Associates to work with the Centre for Urban Policy >>>>> Studies >>>>> >> (CUPS), tenable from October 2007 for 24 months in the first >>>>> >instance. >>>>> >> You will contribute to research connected to an EPSRC funded >>>>> project >>>>> >> focusing on Resilient Design (RE-DESIGN) for >>>>> >>>>> >>>> counter-terrorism: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> Decision support for designing effective and acceptable >>>>> >resilient places. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> You will liaise with the Re-Design team to help >>>>> >>>>> >>>> develop a unique >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> multi- disciplinary research framework for countering >>>>> >>>>> >>>> terrorism in >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> crowded public places. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> You will have a PhD (or at least submitted by >>>>> >>>>> >>>> contract start) in a >>>> >>>> >>>>> >> cognate discipline such as urban planning, human geography, >>>>> >political >>>>> >> science, international relations, urban sociology, >>>>> architecture; and >>>>> >> experience of conducting qualitative case study based >>>>> >research to a high standard. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Informal enquiries >>>>> >> Dr Jon Coaffee >>>>> >> Tel: 0161 275 6903 >>>>> >> Email: [log in to unmask] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> >-- >>>>> >Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro >>>>> >Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz >>>>> >1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561 >>>>> >tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992 >>>>> >e-mail: [log in to unmask] >>>>> > >>>>> >Senior Editor >>>>> >Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism >>>>> > >>>>> >Editor >>>>> >ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies >>>>> >http://www.acme-journal.org/ >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro >>>> Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz >>>> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561 >>>> tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992 >>>> e-mail: [log in to unmask] >>>> >>>> Senior Editor >>>> Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism >>>> >>>> Editor >>>> ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies >>>> http://www.acme-journal.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- >> Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro >> Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz >> 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561 >> tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992 >> e-mail: [log in to unmask] >> >> Senior Editor >> Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism >> >> Editor >> ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies >> http://www.acme-journal.org/ >> >> -- Salvatore Engel-Di Mauro Department of Geography, SUNY New Paltz 1 Hawk Drive, New Paltz, NY 12561 tel: 1/845/2572991, fax: 1/845/2572992 e-mail: [log in to unmask] Senior Editor Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Journal of Ecosocialism Editor ACME: An international e-journal for critical geographies http://www.acme-journal.org/