IMHO I think you are being a bit precious over this. The post in
question wasn't pretending to be anything it wasn't. If you don't like
it just delete it. Its not as if there is much volume on the list.
R
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Evidence based health (EBH)
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Douglas Badenoch
> Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 6:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Evidence still lacking on how fast antidepressants act
>
> Yes, I agree too.
>
> I shall ask the BMJ group to cease and desist.
>
> If anyone else wishes to comment, please send them directly
> to me at the email below so we don't clog up the list with
> further discussions.
>
> cheers
>
> Douglas
>
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>
> Dan Mayer wrote:
> > I agree,
> >
> > I was wondering what was going on when I first saw it as the email
> > neither asked nor answered a question, but just gave some
> unasked for
> > information, without any references.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
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> >>>> Rakesh Biswas <[log in to unmask]> 07/21/07 5:08 AM >>>
> >>>>
> > Yes even I was wondering why it was posted to this list.
> >
> > rakesh
> >
> >
> > On 7/21/07, k.hopayian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> This looks like a commercial posting. It does not add to the
> >>
> > discussion on
> >
> >> EBP, add to our understanding of it or ask/contribute to
> >>
> > collaboration. I
> >
> >> would like to know what others on this list think about
> such postings.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> B/W, Kev Hopayian
> >> -------on 20/7/07 11:14, Jane McHugh at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >>
> >> *Evidence still lacking on how fast antidepressants act*
> >>
> >> One of the most important questions about antidepressant
> drugs - how
> >> quickly they act - remains unanswered, say mental health experts
> >>
> > today.
> >
> >> In an editorial for BMJ Clinical Evidence, Andrea Cipriani and
> >>
> > colleagues
> >
> >> say that the speed people respond to these drugs has great
> clinical
> >> relevance for both the patient and the physician, but conclusive
> >>
> > evidence is
> >
> >> still lacking.
> >>
> >> For instance, a shorter response time rapidly improves patient
> >>
> > wellbeing,
> >
> >> decreasing length of hospitalisation, and reducing the
> amount of time
> >>
> > the
> >
> >> patient spends away from work, and the time the impairment affects
> >>
> > family
> >
> >> and friends. It also enables physicians to make prompt decisions
> >> about changing or optimising treatment.
> >>
> >> Views have changed over the years, but recent studies indicate that
> >>
> > these
> >
> >> drugs act quickly rather than having a delayed effect.
> >>
> >> However, there are many challenges involved in designing studies to
> >>
> > detect
> >
> >> timing of onset, say the authors. For example, how to measure and
> >>
> > define an
> >
> >> early response and what degree of symptom reduction is needed to
> >>
> > fulfil this
> >
> >> definition.
> >>
> >> They also point to financial incentives surrounding fast acting
> >> antidepressants, and warn clinicians to ensure that fast onset of
> >>
> > action is
> >
> >> not valued at the expense of tolerability or long-term
> effectiveness
> >>
> > of
> >
> >> antidepressant treatment.
> >>
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