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Re: radstats 7. Radstats, and Political correctness.

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John Barker <[log in to unmask]>

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John Barker <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:42:37 +0100

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I am glad that Martin Sewell has pointed out the widespread nature of PC.

The last paragraph of his e-mail is interesting to me, as it deals with a
historical question that I have long wanted to explore but through  pressure
of other work have not got very far. If Martin or any other group member
could let me have a reference or two to explore these historical
connections, I would be very grateful.

But my understanding at present is that  an essential part of this history
is  a changing perception of two linked concepts, race and of equality. It
became accepted that races do not exist, which is nonsense, as I have argued
in detail with full evidence a long time ago now on Radstats. It has also
become accepted that all men are created equal. This must surely be a
candidate for the daftest idea ever promulgated by anybody in the whole
history of mankind . What genetics teaches us is that, apart from identical
twins, we are all born with a different genetical endowment. This means that
in any given environment, say within a family (sibs), any two or more people
will differ in their ability to adapt to that environment, even if usually,
the difference may be very small, but occasionally large.

Here, the common mans understanding is more accurate than PC ideology - and
I dare say this applies to other cultures like Muslim cultures as well as to
my own culture.
One commonly hears "Oh he/she takes after his/her father" and then follows
not just something about physical appearance, but behavioural traits as well
("he/she is so laid back, just like his/her father", "he/she is much
brighter than his/her brother/sister").

And again, venturing into another field, education, I think the system that
operated when I was a young person served our country much better than the
current one : 11 plus exam, segregation into grammar and other schools, but
this allowed the occcasional transfer from the one to the other (as happened
at my grammar school when someone came to us from a technical college - and
I nearly got sent the other way before I 'pulled my socks up' when I
discovered the wonders of nature and determined to become a professional
biologist and then realised how intersting related subjects like chemistry
were, and later all other subjects like history); a separation into
universities and technical colleges so that all could be provided with an
education taylored to their needs and aspirations.

John Barker.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Sewell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: radstats 7. Radstats, and Political correctness.


> At 19:39 11/06/2007 +0100, John Barker wrote:
>>I repeat and underline what Coleman wrote:
>>Democratic approval might have been thought necessary for so notable and
>>permanent a change, the prospect of which would have been dismissed as
>>absurd just a few decades ago".
>>
>>It is absolutely outrageous we were not consulted! ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS.
>>
>>And I believe Radstats is helping along this transformation of my society.
>>
>>I assert, as a member of the White: British group, that my parents and
>>grandparents, and more distant relatives and other members of the White:
>>British group really slaved away at their jobs for the good of their
>>country, believing it was Christian God ordained, sometimed fighting for,
>>sometimes dying for their country. I will never forget the straightened
>>circumstances in which I was brought up in. We were chapel folk. We
>>certainly were not hostile to any ethnic minority person we might come in
>>contact with, indeed we were sypathetic to their needs. And we recognised
>>the valuable work done by our West Indian bus drivers. Perhaps I should
>>mention that I was born in 1931. And that my father was a clerk and my
>>mother had been an office worker before having children, both for the City
>>Council.
>>
>>But my people - not just my family, but the White: British people, who
>>should have been the foremost  concern of any government that they had
>>elected, would never, never have agreed to the massive influx of
>>foreigners  that subsequently was allowed indeed promoted by successive
>>governments.
>
> Every human being is equipped with the same psychology: they perceive
> their own community or nation as an 'in-group', whereas those outside
> belong to an 'out-group'. In any situation, with any set of individuals,
> if you introduce a small handful of outsiders, they are easily assimilated
> and accommodated by the majority.  The problem in trying to boost the
> in-group by incorporating some of the out-group is that the qualities that
> make for identification with the in-group become diluted and this leads to
> instability and eventual fission of the in-group.  If the proportion of
> outsiders becomes very substantial, then it can itself assume the status
> of being a rival in-group and no accommodation or assimilation takes
> place: in fact, the opposite--mutual hostility--is more likely.  This is
> what has been happening in Britain through almost completely uncontrolled
> mass immigration, mainly of those who are not coming to the UK to work or
> who are unskilled or inappropriately/semi-skilled people who have little
> in common with a Western or developed society/economy, let alone with
> British culture.
>
>>In the 1930's, as the awful tyranny descended on Germany, many peope there
>>must have felt despair. Few I imagine thought that the tyranny could be
>>broken. But eventually it was. And their followed retribution.
>>
>>However, many got away with it. And the worst people in my opinion, were
>>not those who supported the tyranny, but those people who knew what was
>>going on but kept their traps shut.
>>
>>I believe my country is in the grips of a tyranny just as evil as the Nazi
>>tyranny, and just as mistaken in its views (e.g. substituting the
>>proveably daft notion of racial purity with the equally daft idea that
>>races do not exist). The consequences of dissent may be generally less
>>severe, but the general sitution is similar to that in Germany then.
>>
>>But people should ponder that, as in Germany, things may change and people
>>then demand justice.
>
> Political correctness (PC) is the third great evil arising from Western
> civilization in the last century.  PC and fascism are both derivatives of
> Marxism and both have their roots in the 1920s.  However, unlike fascism
> and Marxism, PC is not restricted to a small number of countries, it
> pervades every country in the developed world, right down to the level of
> the family.  In this sense, the spread and acceptance of PC fascism (PC is
> a form of fascism) means that we are currently experiencing the darkest
> days of fascism so far experienced in the world.  There has never been
> anything more anti-scientific or unjust in the history of Western culture.
>
> Martin
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