Dear Terry,
In my experience, information must be chosen because no one can ever really
afford to just gather. One tries to distinguish between useful and relevant
kinds of information related to the effort at hand.
And so information is "gathered" purposefully toward some end and where
possible in a form related to the nature and scale of the questions driving
the process. Call it wisely selected, chosen, or whatever, it is an
inescapably judgmental, modeling and sorting process.
Putting evaluation in a box at the far end of things is for me to miss the
central role that evaluation plays in all phases of designing.
Best,
Jerry
On 4/9/07 5:24 PM, "Terence Love" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Jerry,
> I referred to 'gathering information' rather than 'choosing information'.
> 'Gathering' doesn't necessarily require 'choosing'. The point (and benefit)
> of many design methods is that they gather information that one wouldn't
> otherwise choose.
>
> Choosing a design method? That's a different question!
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Terry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Diethelm
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 April 2007 8:17 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Defining Design (Re: Evidence and ethics)
>
> Dear Terry,
>
> You are mistaken. Choosing information is an evaluation.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On 4/9/07 5:01 PM, "Terence Love" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Jerry,
>>
>> You are mistaken. Information gathering means exactly that.
>>
>> Analysis is a form of information gathering. The central role of all
>> design methods is to provide information to the designer. This even
>> includes creative thought producing techniques.
>>
>> Evaluation is a later stage covering only a small part of the game. It
>> depends on having information to work on. Design can occur without
>> evaluation - unless you extend the meaning of evaluation to include
>> anything that results in a decision. I think that takes it to too
>> broad a role that reduces the value of evaluation as a concept.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Terry
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and
>> related research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>> Behalf Of Jerry Diethelm
>> Sent: Tuesday, 10 April 2007 4:24 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Defining Design (Re: Evidence and ethics)
>>
>> On 4/9/07 7:35 AM, "Terence Love" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> 1: The central purpose of ALL design methods is information gathering.
>>> Period. (Its because of the definition of design as a human activity).
>>
>> As I read further in the post, it becomes clearer that "information
>> gathering" is intended here to mean ANALYSIS.
>>
>> I'd assert that EVALUATION is a larger and better concept for
>> designing, yielding a broader cultural conversation about what matters.
>>
>>
>> Regards to all,
>>
>> Jerry
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