Louise
We are not part of any consortia deals and we have to register to access
archive issues of any of the BMJ journal we subscribe to.
Regards
Angela
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Mater Misericordiae University Hospital
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Louise Cole" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES
> I sense a pattern from those who have contacted me off-list - they are
part of a consortia deal, we are not. Can an institution not in a consortia
deal check and see if they are being asked for individual registrations?
And maybe BMJ could let us know if there is a policy they have introduced
for those with individual journal subscriptions only? I have tried Gut and
Journal of neurology, neurosurgery and psychiatry so far and anything before
2006 is asking for us to register.
>
> Thanks
> Louise
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lesley Crawshaw
> Sent: 03 April 2007 16:58
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for pointing this out Louise.
>
> I had spotted that one of the backfiles was now fully online when we were
working yesterday with this publisher's journals on Serials Solutions.
Contrary to what the Serials Solutions knowledgebase said we noticed that
the Journal of Clinical Pathology had all the issues online and that we
could access the full text of articles in the very first issue. I did email
our contact at BMJ Publishing to ask if we had rights to access the full
archive of this journal and then the announcement appeared on various lists.
I have to admit I hadn't fully read the announcement and didn't see the
information on registration.
>
> I have to say I more than confused as to why I can access BMJ Publishing
Journals that are more than a year old without the need for a username and
password. I've managed to get into the very first article of Journal of
Clinical Pathology without any request to register. Is this because we are
part of the UK NESLi2 deal for BMJ Publishing journals?
>
> I certainly think it's a very bad idea if institutions whose IPs are
already registered should have their users required to register separately.
I understand that the idea behind registration is that the publisher can see
who is using the archive. Surely since the publisher already has a good idea
who is using their journals via institutional IP (or ATHENS) authentication,
then these users should be excluded from this registration? I wouldn't have
thought this would be a difficult process to implement?
>
> I would certainly urge the publisher to reconsider this policy in relation
to institutional users. I am not aware of any other publisher that has gone
down the route of requiring users to register in order to access open access
material. It isn't something we would want to encourage either.
>
> Finally, I just wanted to congratulate the publisher for making these
archives free to all. I think that although it has had to give up the
possibility of all that extra dosh that comes from selling archives, the
increased usage that will come as a result of these open access archives
will more than make up for it. It also continues the spirit of those many
Highwire societies/publishers (and many others) who have also chosen to make
their archives free to all. It's just a real pity that the positive aspects
of this announcement have been tainted by the issue of registration.
>
> Cheers
> Lesley
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louise Cole
> Sent: 03 April 2007 15:29
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES
>
> I'd like to comment on this new policy.
>
> First of all, we have had next to no notice of it. Result: a high number
of queries today from staff and students asking 'what's the password' and
'why don't I have access'?
>
> Going back to an individual username and password for each person to
access is ridiculous and is in complete contrast to what most institutions
are trying to achieve, i.e. single or reduced sign on between resources.
>
> I appreciate that most BMJ journals have issues freely available after 12
months. However current subscribers (who are known by IP address) surely
should not be penalised in this way, effectively having to log in and be
authenticated more than once, depending on where they are based? (I suppose
we should consider current content as 12 months from publication regardless
of contracts going back further ...?)
>
> I know that BMJ need to monitor who is accessing their archives - and
releasing archive back to the first issue is a major achievement - but why
do it this way? Do they really need to know every single person who
accesses material (poor staff and students who now need to go through the
process of registration AND remembering yet another username and password
when all they wanted was to check some research and get on with their lives
...).
>
> I'm also not happy with the fact that we have had to change internal
procedures without any notice, including providing our customers with
information on this new registration policy, where we can.
>
> It is treating institutional subscriptions just the same as individual
ones, and I for one don't like it. Individual subscribers to a journal may
be happy to register for access, but an institution purchases on behalf of
all staff and students, who expect to be able to get into journal content
quickly and without unnecessary complications. That's what IP access is
for!
>
> Thanks - just needed to get that out of my system! I'd be interested to
know what others think.
>
> Louise
>
> Louise Cole
> Electronic Resources Team Leader
> Health Sciences Library
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> University of Leeds
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ingrid Walsh
> Sent: 02 April 2007 13:47
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: IMPORTANT NOTICE - BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS CHANGES
>
>
>
> ***IMPORTANT NOTICE - CHANGES TO BMJ JOURNAL ARCHIVE ACCESS***
>
> Over the coming months we will be releasing the full back archive of our
23 journals, all the way back to Volume 1, Issue 1. That's over 4800 issues!
And guess what? They're free! The first journal to be released will be
Journal of Clinical Pathology (and its Molecular Pathology
> edition) on 2nd April. So from that date, you'll need to register with us
to browse all articles over 12 months old.
>
> As well as maintaining access to our archive, you can also use the folders
feature, allowing you to save interesting articles and searches in a
personalised folder. You can also sign up to receive new alerts.
>
> Registration is easy; fill in the online form and you'll immediately be
free to search the archive as usual. You'll only need to register once and
we promise not to share your details with people if you don't want us to.
>
> If you've registered with us in the past, or you have a journal
subscription, you'll just need to sign in as usual.* You can use the
'Remember me' feature on the site or your browser to sign in automatically.
>
> If you haven't registered for this site yet, visit
http://journals.bmj.com/cgi/register?jnl now.
>
> Regards
>
> BMJ Journals marketing team
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