Hi Mark, many thanks for your feedback on the UK Federation website.
As well as the detailed discussion on attributes in section 7 of the
Technical Recommendations for Participants document, we've listed the
four core attributes here
http://www.ukfederation.org.uk/content/Documents/AttributeUsage
If you search for the word "attributes" on the UK Federation website,
this page is listed at the top.
The attributes used within the federation have been categorised into
Core, Subsidiary, Additional and Custom Attributes, as described in
another recent addition to this page
http://www.ukfederation.org.uk/library/uploads/Documents/AttributeSets.p
df
Please keep the feedback coming, it's extremely useful to hear these
"real world" experiences!
Regards,
Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for Shibboleth developments
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> Sent: 22 February 2007 16:50
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> Subject: Re: review of briefing requirements for federated
> access management
>
> Nicole Harris wrote:
> > If you have any ideas
> > about 'gaps' in information, I'd be very interested to hear them.
> > Some of the areas where we know information is still needed are:
>
> Nicole,
>
> I've been meaning to send a comment to UKERNA (so apologies
> to anyone from UKERNA who may be watching this list), but
> your initiative seems a good place to submit such a comment.
>
> We're not a JISC-funded 'early adopter' here in Oxford, but
> we /are/ just beginning to adopt right now.
>
> Also - I've been a little out of touch over the last 5 or 6
> months, so apologies if anyone else has addressed this or if
> policy has been changed and been announced.
>
> Anyway: when I was 'advising' here, I talked up the ease of
> Shib implementation, especially as we are only expecting to
> serve up 4 attributes in the short- to medium-term. This
> seems sensible as both IdPs and SPs need to know what to expect.
>
> However, a search of the http://www.ukfederation.org.uk
> doesn't turn up any text advising of the 4 attributes (and I
> therefore wondered if the policy had changed). I found the
> list of Attribute Usage (SPs) quite
> easily:
> http://www.ukfederation.org.uk/content/Documents/AttributeUsage
>
> Eventually a colleague pointed me at:
> Transition arrangements -> FedDocs and I found the 4
> attributes listed at links saying
> recommendations-for-use-of-personal-data
> and
> technical-recommendations-for-participants
>
> Anyway, my point is that this information is somewhere
> between 'basic'
> and 'technical' and is the kind of thing needed in order to
> persuade the 'powers that be' in our organisations to
> implement Shibboleth and expose certain data to the outside
> world. It should be easier to find.
>
> I'd recommend that it should be found easily from the
> 'Operational Information' link, or maybe the 'Join' major
> link should go to somewhere that has a page saying "What do I
> have to do to make Shibboleth work at my institution?"
>
> At the moment, it's too much like the other meaning of the
> word "Shibboleth". People like us can find the information
> because we know quite a bit and we know it's there. For
> those who don't know so much, there should be a couple of
> easy entry pages on the http://www.ukfederation.org.uk site,
> before sending people away to browse through MATU or somewhere.
>
> I notice that you mention a 'Business Case Toolkit'. That
> might help or be the very place!
>
> A few weak promises:
> We should be able to submit something about Oxford's
> experience regarding hardware purchases soon (it won't be too
> interesting, though!). Once we get the arguments thrashed
> out, we may also be able to help with the multiple management
> domains as well, although we are going to campaign hard for
> only one IdP at Oxford (as our SSO reaches across the
> collegiate University).
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> --
>
> Mark Norman
> Integration and Development Manager
> Oxford University Computing Services
> Tel. +44 (0)1865 273287
>
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