medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Quoting John Briggs <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> Well, the context in which I wrote:
>
> > 1) Yes, consecration of a bishop is a sacrament.
>
> was:
>
> > 2) Yes, it is "holy orders"
>
> If I am being misleading, I am in good company,
Nonsense. You're just begging the question by asserting, without argument, that
"consecration of a bishop" is (a) the same thing as "a sacrament" because (b)
"it is 'holy orders'".
That's the very point at issue among theologians: can Holy Orders be reduced to
the episcopacy. You're playing on an ambiguity in the very "to be", one that can
easily be avoided if you write that Holy Orders is the name of the Sacrament,
and the name designates or refers to, among other things, the episcopacy.
You chose not to avoid that ambiguity, or else you weren't even aware of it. I
don't think you can charge the Catholic Encyclopedia, which makes things quite
clear, with either of those faults.
Scott Carson
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