Dear Francis
Thank you for your research.
At the time I put out the request, I was purely interested in providing a
few background details about John Brion for a project I was doing on the
urban development of Brighton. I didn't have time to spend hours researching
his history so was hoping a book might exist with such details. I have the
wonderful Sussex printed maps book but his life wasn't given any detail in
that.
I haven't done any research on the matter so far but at some point, when I
get the time, I will look into it further, as the wood relief map of
Brighton is a wonderful piece of cartography and it would be interesting to
know more about it's creator. If I do find some details I would be more than
happy to share them. I am very fortunate, and pleased, that someone stuck an
advert onto the back of the map.
Kind regards
Timothy Langner
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From: "Francis Herbert" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: John Brion & Sons
Dear Timothy Langner,
There is an old typed catalogue card (ex-Royal Geographical Society's
Archives collection) indicating one letter from a J. Brion in Archives
correspondence block 1851-60; but, on searching, I could not locate it
(mis-filed?). The 'Catalogue of Map Room of the Royal Geographical
Society. March, 1881' (London : J. Murray, 1882), p.75, lists "[Wight],
Isle of." by J. Brion (London, 1858).
'Tooley's dictionary of mapmakers, rev. ed. : A - D' edited by Josephine
French [et al.] (Tring : Map Collector Publications, 1999), ISBN
0-906430-14-3, p.191, entry 'Brion, John [& Sons]' notes four (named)
relief maps of 1858-59.
A online union catalogue of some British map collections' holdings can
be searched on http://www.copac.ac.uk, but - if you type in only John
Brion - you will get both his works and those of Henry F. Brion (the
elder son?).
As for "finding out when he was born, died and what other things he
worked on. I know that some of [his] work was published by Edward
Stanford.", you could start (if you don't know his birth and death
places & dates) with Post Office/Kelly's London directory and/or with
the International Genealogical Index [http://www.familysearch.org/].
Best advice for family hitory research methodology and sources would be
given by your London (?) borough public library's local studies branch
and/or county record office. If I remember this evening I'll check an
1858 Stanford catalogue I have at home, and a few others of later date.
It would be appreciated, of course, if you were to reveal which sources
have been already searched by you in order to avoid duplication of
effort by others!
PS: how far down the genealogical treee are you interested? I listed
H.F. Brion in my article on Fellows of the RGS, the map trade, and
geographical publishing in GB, 1830s-1930s, in 'Imago Mundi', 1983, 35.
And we stioll have two of his photorelief maps (of Eng. & Wales, and of
Scotland, of 1885-86, for the SPCK) - see this Society's OPAC.
Yours sincerely
Francis Herbert
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Timothy Fintan Langner
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:16 AM
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Subject: John Brion & Sons
Dear all
Does any one know where I can find out more about John Brion, a
geographical
modeller and constructor of relief maps. Is there a good bibliographical
reference book to cartographers which might include him?
I have an advert which gives a description of different types of
services he
offers. That is stuck on the back an 1858 1" raised relief map of the
Environs of Brighton.
However I am interested in finding out when he was born, died and what
other
things he worked on. I know that some of work was published by Edward
Stanford.
On a slightly related note, does any one know how easy it would be to
remove
nicotine stains from a hand coloured wooden relief map? The 1" map of
Brighton was probably hanging in a pub for many years, which is how it
aquired the nicotine stains. It would be interesting to have them
removed,
but not at the expense of the original cartographic work.
Kind regards
Timothy Langner
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