medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Looking at the image for a few minutes, let me offer the following impressions:
1. A scapular may form part of the "habit' both of the monk kneeling and the monastic figure in the vision above, and the monastic figure in the distance speaking to (?) the other figure.
2. The other figure in the distance seems to be a lay ruler or authority of some sort who has perhaps risen from his seat (in agitation?). The monastic figure seems to be haranguing him, or perhaps vice versa.
3. There are ten large birds.
4. Why are two of the monastic figures bareheaded while one is cowled?
5. The monastic figure in the vision poses like St. Francis viewing the crucifix, at least in later versions e.g.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/b7/300px-Francisbyelgreco.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.answers.com/topic/franciscan&h=355&w=300&sz=27&hl=en&start=27&tbnid=D2-OKq_flHO56M:&tbnh=121&tbnw=102&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfrancis%2Bof%2Bassisi%26start%3D18%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
There seems to be some object or objects lying between Christ carrying the cross and the monastic figure viewing him. This scene also seems to take place inside a building (hut?), perhaps some parallel to the main scene?
6. The monastic figures are all bearded, suggesting hermits, lay brothers, reformed Benedictines or perhaps Franciscans.
7. That roundel on the wall seems to have some sort of figures on it: astrological, perhaps?
just a few observations on the Eve,
jbw
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Here's the mystery saint again:
> http://nauplion.net/bugslag.html
This won't help with his identification, but has anyone else noticed a resemblance to the snub-nosed, bearded Socrates? See:
http://tinyurl.com/yk8tfr
http://www.petra.gr/Theology/socrates.htm
http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/gaddis/HST210/Oct9/Default.htm
Best,
John Dillon
("Sancte Socrates, ora pro nobis" -- Erasmus)
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