And John Tranter's 'Crying in Early Infancy' - a hundred pomo sonnets.
Naybe he has somem on his site - I'll look.
Andrew
On 18/09/06, Halvard Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> You might then think of changing where you're sitting.
> E.g., you might take a look at what's been done with
> the sonnet by the likes of Ted Berrigan and Bernadette
> Mayer, among others.
>
> Hal
>
> "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
> --Noam Chomsky
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> On Sep 17, 2006, at 6:16 PM, Kasper wrote:
>
> > "The world of the sonnet is a wide and varied one"
> >
> > not from where I'm sitting, but that's just one way to look at it. I
> > have a categorical dislike for poetry that is strictly schematic in
> > terms of form (this does not include haiku, because good haiku aren't
> > strictly schematic in form).
> > the reason I was wondering it is that these 'sonnets' don't follow the
> > metre- or rhyme schemes that english & italian sonnets do; i.e. they
> > aren't 'technically' sonnets. the only alternative I see is then that
> > you call these sonnets because that description for the poems has some
> > bearing on what you want to say in/with them, or how. that motive is
> > what I was after, nothing more. :)
> >
> > Douglas, I'm not sure my question warranted as curt a reply as yours.
> >
> > KS
> >
> > On 17/09/06, Halvard Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> The world of the sonnet is a wide and varied one.
> >>
> >> Hal
> >>
> >> "If the brain were so simple we could understand
> >> it, we would be so simple we couldn't."
> >> --Lyall Watson
> >>
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> >> On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:05 PM, Kasper wrote:
> >>
> >> > I've been wondering, why do you call these poems sonnets?
> >> >
> >> > On 16/09/06, Halvard Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >> Autumnal Sonnet
> >> >>
> >> >> An undesecrated flag flew over the ballpark, where outfielders
> >> >> napped and baserunners took desperate chances. Such talent
> >> >> as that had not been seen since the beginning of the eclipse.
> >> >>
> >> >> Opportunity stood on our doorstep, hand raised to knock. Embryo-
> >> >> genesis, our middle name. No-fly zones at the ready in the
> >> backyard.
> >> >> All sorts of guys came by for drinks, or looking for free hand-
> >> outs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Among the missing, we were always at a loss for something to say,
> >> >> something at least sympathetic, if not moreso. A designer
> >> >> of aloha shirts camped on the median strip across from the end
> >> >>
> >> >> of our driveway. "Will work for food" said his sign. Some said his
> >> >> parents had married for love, but none could have known for sure.
> >> >> Youngsters congregated in the front yard, choosing up sides.
> >> >>
> >> >> We older folk kicked back in the bleachers, basking in the early
> >> >> October sun, taking our game to higher levels than ever before.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hal
> >> >>
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