medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: Aden Kumler <[log in to unmask]>
> The BNF does not yet have anything set up in the way of online
cataloging like the BL or the Bodleian.
yes, i assumed so, after doing what i thought was a pretty good search of the
bnf.fr site.
> However, if you are interested in a Latin MS (or Grec MS; or a n. a.
lat. MS )- you may be in luck.
>
> If you go to this address:
> http://www.bnf.fr/pages/zNavigat/frame/catalogues_num.htm
>
> -and select the"Manuscrits-Occident" link-
>
> -you'll be taken to a page that allows you to select the shelfmark range
within which the lat. MS that interests you falls and it should give you a
result (assuming it is within a shelfmark range of the fonds that has had its
catalogue entries digitized).
> Sadly the digitization is still "en cours" and there are many shelfmark
ranges in the Latin fonds that have not yet had their cataloging scanned and
posted. I'm afraid that this seems to be the case with MS lat. 14758.
yes, they seem to have only gotten up to Lat. 14231.
> I've found (after much trial and error) that it's worth searching the
Gallica digital holdings in two ways:
> a) within Gallica's search engine;
> b) through the primary BNF catalog ("BN Opale-plus") as sometimes things
that have been digitized and are available in Gallica *only* appear (with the
requisite links to the pdfs) if you search for them in BN Opale-plus...
this is very good to know.
>Don't know why.
well, the whole thing about these French Ministre de Kulture sites is that
they are, typically, Thought Up by Geniuses, to be executed by Morons.
and the Morons get paid by the Piece, i believe.
anyway, using your good ideas, i've found that what i'm in need of is
Delisle's _Inventaire des manuscrits de l'abbaye de Saint-Victor conservés à
la Bibliothèque impériale sous les nos 14232-15175 du fonds latin_ (Paris,
1869)
which fits, since i was able to do a websearch on the shelf number +
"Maccabees" (the ms. contains, i believe, some sort of poetic reworking of the
book of M.) and came up with a reference to another part of the ms. which said
that it was originally from St. Victor's.
that's the Good News.
the Bad News is Delisle is, apparently, not available on Gallica yet.
but, the Good News is that it is, apparently, an "Extrait de la 'Bibliothèque
de l'École des chartes'". 6e série. T. V
which my library has.
the Bad News is that some Wisenheimer Lieberry Scientist here has put all the
back volumes of the BEC in storage and it takes at least a day to get to see
one.
but, the Good News is that the older volumes of the BEC are on Gallica.
including this 1869 one:
http://visualiseur.bnf.fr/Visualiseur?Destination=Gallica&O=NUMM-12404 (though
that url might not be stable).
the Bad News is that when i try and access it, i get a massage telling me "Le
document que vous avez demandé n'est pas accessible."
though i did get to see the first page of it, briefly.
hey, who said Middleval research isn't exciting?
a Thrill a Minit.
anyway, now i've got a clue as to what i need to see.
Many Thanks, Aden.
very kind of you to share.
c
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