It's only an argument in an intellectual sense, Stephen, not the seemingly
personal one that the phrasing 'a seeming perpetual one with Geraldine'
suggests.
Can't buy the book me duck because I can't afford to buy new books: I live
on minimum incapacity benefit these days.
Best
dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
> David -
>
> If this is an argument with either me - and my ignorance of your history -
> or a seeming perpetual one with Geraldine, I think it best that we not
> dribble in the dark - but that you buy the book, and then respond on a
more
> informed level to the real text at hand.
>
> Thanks
> Stephen V
>
>
>
> >> Her book from West House is Escafeld Hangings (complete with a CD).
> >> Mary had some big troubles (apparently) with the head of State, as I
> > suspect
> >> the majority of England - including no doubt both you and Geraldine -
> > these
> >> days with Blair who, nevertheless, holds his subjects to his and George
> > W's
> >> suicidal war policies. I suspect there is a bit of ironic metaphoric
> >> identification going on between M and G. Geraldine's response is to
> >> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
and
> > a
> >> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Stephen. I fear the metaphor does not hold.
> >
> > Teflon Tony, thank God, is not the British Head of State, nor are we
+his+
> > subjects. He is the current +voice+ of power though. Mary's imprisonment
and
> > woes were a direct result of the Machiavellian maneouvres of Elizabethan
> > power politics, which are best not to contemplate at this time of the
> > morning (it's a little before 6 a.m. here). And, too, that she was a
female
> > ruler at the same time as England had one: disaster! in political terms:
she
> > could marry an enemy!!! If the English monarch had been male at the time
> > they'd have married them off faster than you can say Jack Robinson
> > (actually, nobody seems to say that any more). Also Mary had the
political
> > and social savoir-faire of a sheep outside a slaughterhouse.
> >
> > But if the metaphor runs to G in Blair's Britannia not being noticed by
> > Sheffield as Mary was in imprisonment there, well, I can't say it fits.
> > Ironic, yes, indeed.
> >
> >> Geraldine's response is to
> >> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
and
> > a
> >> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
> >
> > I bet she does! She's very good at that.
> >
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
> >
> >
> >>>> I gather it was not too glamorous - conditions et al - Ms. Mary in
> > prison
> >>> at
> >>>> the time.
> >>>
> >>> Sure, Stephen. By 'historical glamour' I meant that of the +name+ Mary
> > Queen
> >>> of Scots.
> >>>
> >>>> And, I suspect, in terms of Geraldine living in contemporary
> >>>> Sheffield, not to glamorous either. Put M & G together, etc. & see
what
> >>>> happens (as poem) along with Blair as head of State. Yucks.
> >>>
> >>> Unlike some of G's prior or latter work I don't know the MQS stuff. So
> >>> what's link- Mary of Scots, Geraldine, both a long time in, but not
> > from,
> >>> Sheffield, and Blair?
> >>
> >> Her book from West House is Escafeld Hangings (complete with a CD).
> >> Mary had some big troubles (apparently) with the head of State, as I
> > suspect
> >> the majority of England - including no doubt both you and Geraldine -
> > these
> >> days with Blair who, nevertheless, holds his subjects to his and George
> > W's
> >> suicidal war policies. I suspect there is a bit of ironic metaphoric
> >> identification going on between M and G. Geraldine's response is to
> >> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary
and
> > a
> >> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
> >>
> >> I would quote but I am at work, David.
> >>
> >> Stephen V
> >>>
> >>> Just curious.
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:59 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> I guess of more interest is, apart from historical
> >>>>> glamour, what is the +significance+ re Sheffield of Mary Queen of
> > Scots
> >>>>> having been imprisoned there?
> >>>>
> >>>> I gather it was not too glamorous - conditions et al - Ms. Mary in
> > prison
> >>> at
> >>>> the time. And, I suspect, in terms of Geraldine living in
contemporary
> >>>> Sheffield, not to glamorous either. Put M & G together, etc. & see
what
> >>>> happens (as poem) along with Blair as head of State. Yucks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Being under Bush I cannot extend my sympathy too far! Yucks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Stephen V
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