David -
If this is an argument with either me - and my ignorance of your history -
or a seeming perpetual one with Geraldine, I think it best that we not
dribble in the dark - but that you buy the book, and then respond on a more
informed level to the real text at hand.
Thanks
Stephen V
>> Her book from West House is Escafeld Hangings (complete with a CD).
>> Mary had some big troubles (apparently) with the head of State, as I
> suspect
>> the majority of England - including no doubt both you and Geraldine -
> these
>> days with Blair who, nevertheless, holds his subjects to his and George
> W's
>> suicidal war policies. I suspect there is a bit of ironic metaphoric
>> identification going on between M and G. Geraldine's response is to
>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary and
> a
>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>
>
> Thanks, Stephen. I fear the metaphor does not hold.
>
> Teflon Tony, thank God, is not the British Head of State, nor are we +his+
> subjects. He is the current +voice+ of power though. Mary's imprisonment and
> woes were a direct result of the Machiavellian maneouvres of Elizabethan
> power politics, which are best not to contemplate at this time of the
> morning (it's a little before 6 a.m. here). And, too, that she was a female
> ruler at the same time as England had one: disaster! in political terms: she
> could marry an enemy!!! If the English monarch had been male at the time
> they'd have married them off faster than you can say Jack Robinson
> (actually, nobody seems to say that any more). Also Mary had the political
> and social savoir-faire of a sheep outside a slaughterhouse.
>
> But if the metaphor runs to G in Blair's Britannia not being noticed by
> Sheffield as Mary was in imprisonment there, well, I can't say it fits.
> Ironic, yes, indeed.
>
>> Geraldine's response is to
>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary and
> a
>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>
> I bet she does! She's very good at that.
>
>
> Best
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:09 PM
> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>
>
>>>> I gather it was not too glamorous - conditions et al - Ms. Mary in
> prison
>>> at
>>>> the time.
>>>
>>> Sure, Stephen. By 'historical glamour' I meant that of the +name+ Mary
> Queen
>>> of Scots.
>>>
>>>> And, I suspect, in terms of Geraldine living in contemporary
>>>> Sheffield, not to glamorous either. Put M & G together, etc. & see what
>>>> happens (as poem) along with Blair as head of State. Yucks.
>>>
>>> Unlike some of G's prior or latter work I don't know the MQS stuff. So
>>> what's link- Mary of Scots, Geraldine, both a long time in, but not
> from,
>>> Sheffield, and Blair?
>>
>> Her book from West House is Escafeld Hangings (complete with a CD).
>> Mary had some big troubles (apparently) with the head of State, as I
> suspect
>> the majority of England - including no doubt both you and Geraldine -
> these
>> days with Blair who, nevertheless, holds his subjects to his and George
> W's
>> suicidal war policies. I suspect there is a bit of ironic metaphoric
>> identification going on between M and G. Geraldine's response is to
>> embroider syntax and sing as hard as she can thru the vehicle of Mary and
> a
>> bunch of it is wonderfully goofy in an elevated kind of way.
>>
>> I would quote but I am at work, David.
>>
>> Stephen V
>>>
>>> Just curious.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Vincent" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Berkeley Reading - Geraldine Monk & A Halsey
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I guess of more interest is, apart from historical
>>>>> glamour, what is the +significance+ re Sheffield of Mary Queen of
> Scots
>>>>> having been imprisoned there?
>>>>
>>>> I gather it was not too glamorous - conditions et al - Ms. Mary in
> prison
>>> at
>>>> the time. And, I suspect, in terms of Geraldine living in contemporary
>>>> Sheffield, not to glamorous either. Put M & G together, etc. & see what
>>>> happens (as poem) along with Blair as head of State. Yucks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Being under Bush I cannot extend my sympathy too far! Yucks.
>>>>
>>>> Stephen V
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