Hi Chris
Attached should be a photo of the small bones that were in the assemblage. Not all of these are thought to be frog/toad but if you see any that you notice and want better pictures of let me know. I hope this helps.
sorry if the photo isnt clear enough.
regards
James
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> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: [ZOOARCH] Mystery fauna
> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:11:55 +0100
>
> Hi James,
> A photo of any - even very fragmentary remains - would be fine i hope. I
> wouldn't class radioulna or radioulna as definitive; both can be identified
> to genus (and in toads to species), but the pelvis is much better for
> identifying species. Actually, many bones in the skeleton can be separated
> as frog or toad with even small fragments. Any chance of a quick look and
> i'll see whether i can recognise even a fragment? I'm really keen to know
> whether you've got frog or toad.
> cheers,
> Chris
>
> Dr Chris Gleed-Owen, Research & Monitoring Officer, The Herpetological
> Conservation Trust
> 655A Christchurch Road, Boscombe, Bournemouth, Dorset, BH1 4AP
> tel: 01202 391319 fax: 01202 392785 mob: 07810 770560
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J S [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 30 August 2006 18:03
> To: Chris Gleed-Owen
> Subject: RE: [ZOOARCH] Mystery fauna
>
>
>
> Hi Chris
>
> The frog/toad remains are only very small fragments and i cant get a clear
> enough picture that would be of anyuse to you.
> I have what appears to be a fragment of pelvis but no definitive bones such
> as the radioulna or tibiofibular that would give me 100% certainty of my
> finds. I will keep you posted though if i do find any such remains if you
> interested. Sorry i cant be of anymore help.
>
> regards
> James
>
>
>
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> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: RE: [ZOOARCH] Mystery fauna
> > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:44:51 +0100
> >
> > Hi James,
> > Am very interested indeed to see pics of the 'frog/toad' remains. I can
> give
> > you a specific id, and will be keen to do so. As you know, common frog was
> > supposedly introduced in 17th century (i believe it was already there
> > though) and natterjack toad is only toad supposedly native - and it has
> only
> > been found in Co Kerry in last 2 centuries. (An archaeo record from Sligo
> > was common frog, undated).
> > cheers,
> > Chris
> >
> > Dr Chris Gleed-Owen, Research & Monitoring Officer, The Herpetological
> > Conservation Trust
> > 655A Christchurch Road, Boscombe, Bournemouth, Dorset, BH1 4AP
> > tel: 01202 391319 fax: 01202 392785 mob: 07810 770560
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of J S
> > Sent: 29 August 2006 19:38
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [ZOOARCH] Mystery fauna
> >
> >
> > Dear all
> >
> > I am currently working on a small assemblage from a late Bronze age
> > site in Northern Ireland and I have come across a sample of what appears
> > to be some sort of insect pupae remains. This sample was from a water
> > logged area and species identified so far have included frog/toad and
> > fragments of caddisfly cases. If anyone has come across anything like
> > this before, I would be most grateful for any information. I have
> > attached a photo of the finds for anyone who may wish to have a look.
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > James Summers
> >
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