JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for PLAGIARISM Archives


PLAGIARISM Archives

PLAGIARISM Archives


PLAGIARISM@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

PLAGIARISM Home

PLAGIARISM Home

PLAGIARISM  2006

PLAGIARISM 2006

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Plagiarism in context - a response.

From:

Mike Reddy <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Plagiarism <[log in to unmask]>, Mike Reddy <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:58:12 +0100

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (164 lines)

Response to Peter Levin (2006) WHY THE WRITING IS ON THE WALWHY WALL
FOR THE PLAGIARISM POLICE 1st June  
http://www.student-friendly-guides.com/plagiarism/ 
writing_on_the_wall.pdf Accessed 5/6/06

(his capital letters in title, btw)

In short, I believe Levin's position paper to be making three points:

1) He suggests that patch writing and the use of the words of others  
should be explicitly supported as a legitimate educational activity. If  
pursued, this would indeed bring about the end of the plagiarism  
police, but it would also have to potential to render assessment as  
meaningless.

The idea that we should lighten up over copying is appears to be very  
nice and post modern, especially with reference to later calls for all  
teaching materials and 'passed' student essays to be made freely  
available because ideas aren't property. However, the lack of police  
does have its drawbacks. They exist because people are not always  
altruistic. They are defined by the criminality of the few and the  
protection of the many. We are all, to some degree, law breakers.  
However, it is not the police that have the responsibility to teach, or  
to judge. It IS the job of the lecturer, so we are not merely (if at  
all) plagiarism police. Our duty is the educate, then to professionally  
assess the ability of the student. Part of that is quality assurance.  
One small part is to determine whether a student has been granted  
credit for their own work. It is not who they know (i.e. can cite or  
copy) but what they know (i.e understand) that counts, to coin a  
phrase. A long time ago, a more realistically minded friend of mine  
criticised university for not teaching people how to do things, but to  
be really good at criticising what others do. He drew the analogy to  
theatre and film critics being unable to write a script. "Without the  
doers, what would the cynics attack?" he would say. University should  
be about doing and making as well as analysis.

What is more concerning is the suggested regurgitation of former essays  
into new ones, which as well as being academic inbreeding (?)  
reminiscent of Herman Hesse's "The Glass Bead Game", is flawed (in my  
opinion) because it deskills the student and lowers expectations. Patch  
writing is more legitimate in schools, but not so much at university.  
The question is then when and how to wean students off this before it  
becomes a crutch.

2) Levin's implication that teachers (to use the widest understanding  
of the word) have been unfair in assessment is based on the concept  
that we are 'policing' rather than educating, assessing the ability to  
be assessed, rather than the knowledge.

This is what I call the 'speed trap' analogy: If people only learn to  
slow down for the cameras, rather than to observe speed limits set to  
ensure everyone's safety, then they are not driving safely when they  
believe they are not being watched. The point is the 'if'. Getting a  
ticket, and the corresponding threat of a loss of license if points  
build up - note that new drivers have to retake their test all over  
again if they get one speeding offence in the first year! - is more  
than revenue generation (sic). It does, generally, improve traffic flow  
and curb drivers.

Peter's point in the article is that to "test students (including  
schoolchildren) on what they have not been taught." is on the increase.  
The first section of his paper does show evidence that some students  
don't know how to write. [Peter, this is (ironically) a bit over quoted  
in. Nearly 62% is quotes, which isn't best practice.] Clearly, it is  
unfair to test someone on a skill they do not possess. Remember that  
any drivers with a full drivers license must, therefore, have shown  
that they are capable of controlling the car and observing and keeping  
to the speed limit, or they would not have passed the test. So, maybe  
we all need an academic's drivers licence?

If (again if) assessments just encourage people to 'jump through hoops'  
or 'tick the boxes' then Peter has a point. It IS what you do with it  
that is important. Mere gathering of information is not sufficient any  
longer; when you had to slave over the books and trawl the abstracts it  
was more significant, but now it is far more convenient, even if search  
engines only 'see' about 20% of the web [I do have a reference for  
this, but in a fit of 'New Realism' (kind of post post modernism) I  
have decided not to post it!] So, assessment should require students to  
synthesise and analyse knowledge.

Universities are coming to terms with this change, but it is not merely  
by becoming plagiarism police. I think that we can all agree that  
assuming that students should know how, or be able to work it out  
without explicit training is a thing of the past. Many are actively  
supporting these skills and I know of a few who are looking at  
assessing by other means; in my own work I use video, blogs and even  
text message assignments, with the corresponding increase in resources  
and time that this requires.

[As an exercise, sum up your opinion on this topic in 160 characters or  
less. Standard abbreviations, such as CUL8r "see you later" can be  
used, but provide a separate glossary in case we cannot translate the  
l33t "elite". This form of contextual reading and abbreviated writing  
dates back as far as Sanskrit and Hebraic, and was considered a  
necessity for the educated and wary. Clay tablets like mobile phones  
are limited in size and complex to use...]

3) The paper goes on to call for all information to be made publicly  
available to all. This could, indeed bring an end to essay banks, just  
as legalising all street drugs might end one particular avenue of  
organised crime.

Peter suggests in his abstract that all teaching materials and essays  
be put on the web - just above his ironically worded copyright  
statement - but I am assuming that he is not advocating that this be  
done against the wishes of authors. Firstly, teaching materials ARE the  
property of academic institutions. They pay our wages and it is our  
product. While some lecturers do place their teaching materials  
on-line, this is commercially sensitive, no matter how altruistic, and  
it is unlikely that many institutions would support this.

What is interesting in this analogy is whether there is an academic  
equivalent to the radar detector? Some would argue against giving  
students access to originality reports from TurnitinUK, as it would be  
(to my mind) analogous to radar detectors. A few people advocate that  
leniency in the first year is also problematic. Personally, I have seen  
several very positive cases where students submitted and received these  
reports on their essays, as it explicitly represented academic  
assumptions that might not have been aired otherwise. A bit like seeing  
a public information film to really appreciate the danger of drink  
driving. Talking to the MD of Northumbria Learning the other day, he  
shared a story about a fellow who claimed excitedly to have beaten  
Turnitin by progressively replacing words in an cut and paste essay  
until the software no longer identified the sources. It took days to do  
this refinement, but I would consider even this to be an educationally  
valid activity.

We all know that 78mph is probably OK on a motorway, 48 in a 40 zone,  
and so on; we assume this in our driving. Don't believe me? Now recall  
that time that you were frustrated when behind someone doing exactly  
the speed limit in their car. So, this person who read and re-read this  
material. He changed words, even if mechanically, which required him to  
become intimate with the knowledge. And it took far longer than just  
writing the essay would have. I am sure he learned a lot. I once typed  
up a friend's town planning dissertation. You would be surprised what I  
can still remember of it nearly 20 years later.

I do agree with Peter that students should have greater access to the  
work of others. A former colleague actually gets his students to mark  
each other's work, because it exposes them to the knowledge. In that  
respect, patch writing as a first stage could be a valid educational  
tool. Feedback from peers is excellent, even when that from lecturers  
is occasionally poor. So, another tool might be to get students to  
assess their teachers; presentation skills, use of AV, standard of  
notes, etc.

Levin leaves little else left to us, having criticised examinations and  
summative long term coursework projects. However, I have to agree that  
the language used to describe academic offence to be offensive. Sadly,  
though at around page 12 onwards (about half way), the article becomes  
more opinionated, with more point scoring than justified argument. So.  
I will leave it there for now.

Levin's work is thought provoking, but I grow tired of people putting  
the 'cad' in 'academic'.

Mike

*************************************************************************
You are subscribed to the JISC Plagiarism mailing list. To Unsubscribe, change
your subscription options, or access list archives,  visit
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/PLAGIARISM.html
*************************************************************************

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

May 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
November 2023
October 2023
July 2023
May 2023
April 2023
January 2023
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
August 2021
May 2021
April 2021
January 2021
October 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
March 2020
February 2020
December 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
May 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager