fil et al.
sure we need humans to do designing. but this does not mean that we could
provide computational design aids, methods. for example, the technique of
defining variables and explore all alternatives that their systematic
variation offers can be used to select a solution we might not have found.
but, as i said earlier, the choice of variables cannot be done by a
computer. the choice of the decision criterion for picking satisfactory
solutions out of all possibilities cannot be done by a computer. there are
some mathematical proofs found that way which were not anticipated by
mathematicians designing the theory proven algorithms, but these are rare in
fact, and not necessary more elegant.
klaus
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Klaus et al,
That's why I work on the assumption that for practical concerns we need
humans to do designing.
But the history of science and technology has basically been a series of
demonstrations of "Oh lookie! It *is* possible after all!". If I were
a betting man, I'd bet on science and technology and the humans who make
it happen, to come up with interesting new kinds of solutions. Someday.
Cheers.
Fil
Klaus Krippendorff wrote:
> terry, glen, fil.
> [...]
> this is where finding of automatic solutions is stuck: (a) by the
conception
> of a cartesian space, (b) by the necessarily non-automatic (human)
> definition of what is considered variable, (c) by the size of the space
> created. and (d) by the difficulty if not impossibility to define an
> algorithm that replicates human judgment of the variations this method
> creates.
>
> to talk about automatig or computational design means overcomings all four
> problems. good luck
>
> klaus
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