Jonannes
I agree that the manner of this discussion is not helping move
the various issues forward and propose that we
move on to discussions of other work. I will sign off
also.
Thanks Sarah for agreeing have to have CRUMB
host this discussion.
The ISEA pacific rim Piracy working group is
working a discussion and no doubt during ISEA
we can touch bases.
Roger
On 6/26/06, Goebel, Johannes E. <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> I do not like people hurting each other straight ahead or in escalating
> spirals. And up to now I have been reading the exchanges through this
> list with a certain pleasure of looking out through a window, which I
> had refused to look through too much because of the (imagined) danger of
> going blind - and then there are thoughts lingering outside of that
> window which make me think. So I like the list as a means to look
> without going blind. And every now and then I write a note, which gets
> distributed through the list. The same was true for the exchange in this
> list on what Philip and Peter put up in the context of ZKM.
>
> I feel that the level of exchange is now reaching a level, which is such
> a spiral of reciprocal "hurtings". I certainly do understand why and how
> this happens. But there is a very simple truth that I think applies to
> all of us: We cannot (should not?) expect from someone to understand,
> what we know they cannot understand. The only way we may change the
> capacity of the other to understand is through changing our own approach
> (words, manner, thoughts, actions etc.). And I have so far seen the
> potential to reach such a change only in very personal exchanges, one on
> one in letters, and in face to face meetings. Fora as market places do
> never ever help.
>
> I am aware that I can sign off the list. So this is my (hopefully,
> Johannes) last note on this string of exchanges, which has been very
> interesting to me. Thank you and Bon voyage. Until we meet again, in
> this space or that space or this place and that place (and I do love to
> meet in person - please do come by!).
>
> Johannes
>
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