Yes, sorry, maybe I should clarify.
I think the jump cut *is* a violation of continuity editing. However that is not the same thing as saying that 'jump cuts' were originally *intended* as disruptions to a practice of continuity, and certainly not an open disavowal of the continuity system. I was under the impression that the term 'jump cut' has a fairly precise meaning developed from criticism and writing surrounding la nouvelle vague, writings which are not entirely in agreement about its practical origins. The intellectual origins of the jump cut in la nouvelle vague are contested, but I find the serendipity story much more satisfying as a foundation of filmmaking practice that led to something that could later be used for intellectual effect. Also, my example of the jump cut was not a violation of continuity editing, in the sense that it is the one shot with a big whole in it. So I'm arguing that jump cuts *can* be a violation of continuity, but that does not mean that the jump cut is a violation of continuity editing and only that.
best
Damian
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to me, at least, damian's post is VERY puzzling . . . that is, i think i
agree with virtually all he says, but am startled by the claim that
it has nothing to do with continuity editing, since it seems to me
that what he has just described is precisely a violation of continuity
editing . . . what else possible could he mean when he calls a jump cut
" an irrational edit between shots (or even the same shot) where
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