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I haven't checked my Genesis but didn't Abel offer meat rather than
"produce," and that was what made his offering more acceptable? So why would
Abel be offering wheat?
MG
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>Subject: Re: [M-R] What is he holding?
>Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:23:26 -0600
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>>Here's another theory:
>
>The scene depicts God blessing Abel. The person is kneeling, and what he's
>offering is a sheaf of grain.
>
>Rationale:
>God has two fingers stuck out in proper blessing position; he's not just
>pointing. The size of the animals is much more consistent with cattle than
>sheep in medieval iconography, to my mind illustrating Abel as the first
>agriculturalist. And the kneeling position suggests a formal offering.
>
>Phyllis
>
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>>To me it looks like the man is throttling a smaller person. A bit wild
>>maybe, but what about Abraham being shown the ram as alternate to Isaac..?
>>TGD
>>
>>>>> [log in to unmask] 12/2/05 7:44:57 AM >>>
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>>What if they are sheep? The Hand of God is pointing at the shepherd, and
>>the
>>sheep is holding the cross - what biblical scene is this? Or what saint is
>>in charge of this church? That may be the best indicator.
>>
>>Nancy
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Stephen A. Allen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:06 PM
>>Subject: Re: [M-R] What is he holding?
>>
>>
>>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>>>culture
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>>> At 05:56 AM 12/1/2005, you wrote:
>>>>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>>>>culture
>>>>(Sorry for the cross-postings!)
>>>>
>>>>Dear all:
>>>>
>>>>I wonder if any of you could figure out what is the man holding
>>>>in his hands:
>>>>
>>
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>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any help!
>>>
>>>
>>> My first instinct, given the nearby livestock, would be something
>>> analogous
>>> to a shepherd's crook. The hooked end is towards the viewer and the
>>> length
>>> of the staff is foreshortened by the perspective (and the figure's
>>>large
>>> hands). Alternatively, if the animals are definitely cattle, it could
>>>be
>>> the handle of a plow.
>>>
>>> These are just tentative guesses, mind you.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen Allen
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>Phyllis G. Jestice
>Associate Professor
>History Department
>University of Southern Mississippi
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