Can someone please summarize this Adam / "muti killings" case for those
of us who don't live in England? I just have no idea what this
discussion is about, I'm afraid.
Yours,
Chris Lehrich
A R W Forrest wrote:
>I've had some involvement in the scientific investigation of Adam. If it wasn't
>a ritual killing of some sort then what might it have been? That's a genuine
>question, not a retorical one...
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>Robert Forrest
>Quoting Mogg Morgan <[log in to unmask]>:
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>>Dear all
>>
>>i'd refer you to the excellent article on these terms in JSM2 -
>>the author writes that magic is a persian loan word -
>>later he discussed sanskrit maya - but sees no etymological connection with
>>above -
>>i think i'm correct to say that 'maya' famously changed its meaning,
>>following the philosophical reforms of Shankararcharya -
>>its original meaning of 'uncanny power' switching to the more familiar
>>- and i believe Buddhist influenced 'maya' as 'illusion'
>>
>>'love and do what you will'
>>
>>mogg
>>
>>ps: went to an excellent lecture by Colin Washington - who is a lukumi
>>priest but with a lot of experience of western occultism (see blurb) he
>>mentioned his appearance on C4 to discuss the issue of Adam as a supposed
>>'muti' killing blamed on the 'babalou?' - he explained how there was a
>>specific piece of mythology to do with Ori - that contains an interdiction
>>on human sacrifice with its 'historiola' - so he thought the whole thing was
>>a bit of a put up job - i'm trying to get him to write some of this up for
>>the next issue of our newletter mandrake speaks - but can i also recommend
>>that he be invited to speak at future events - as he is v informative.
>>
>>'Saturday 10th December: "Santeria: A Magical Perspective"
>>Odebitola is a practical Qabalistic Adept with nearly 30 years experience
>>who is also a priest in the Cuban religion of Lukumi. Tonight he will look
>>at the Cuban Yoruba religion of Santeria from a magician's perspective,
>>concentrating on the role of divination, dead, the role of the Orisha and
>>the iwin, the stages in initiation and the grade structure and the
>>differences between the practices of Nigeria, Miami and New York. He will
>>also tell us why he dislikes Santeria!'
>>
>>pps: on cannibalism - perhaps there has been some element of denial or just
>>overfamiliarity - cannibalism, in terms of myth, seems to underpin a great
>>many religions. I like to remind people that some modern thelemites
>>practice cannibalism that does not involve death or suffering. It also is
>>the defining characteristic of sabbatic witchcraft.
>>
>>
>>Mark,
>>
>>As I understand it (not being a philologist or a Sanskritist), it rather
>>depends on what you mean by "derived from." There are so many other
>>words and languages along the way, and no easy causality or the like.
>>
>>But even supposing this were the case, why does it matter? As an
>>example, both "divine" and "devil" ultimately stem back to the same
>>linguistic root, by way of at least one striking reversal of meaning
>>among Zoroastrians (the Sanskrit _devas_ become _divs_ and switch sides,
>>just as _asuras_ switch sides to become _ahuras_ in this new
>>cosmological binarism).
>>
>>The origins of a word may be interesting, but they hardly tell us much
>>about how we ought to use them as scholarly analytical categories.
>>
>>Chris Lehrich
>>
>>Mark Shekoyan wrote:
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>>>Isn't Magic derived from the sanskrit word maya? Magic
>>>as the manipulation of maya???
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>>>oo.com
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>>--
>>Christopher I. Lehrich
>>Boston University
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Christopher I. Lehrich
Boston University
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