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I think there is no question that there are "two complines" for double
feasts. In the Roman usage, there are ferial psalms for Compline (unlike the
monastic tradition that uses the same three daily). In the (post-Tridentine)
breviary, after first vespers of the double feast, the instruction follows:
Compline as on Sunday: that is the festal psalms replace the ferial psalms,
just as they do for vespers and the other hours. All this might, of course,
have had significant variations in the middle ages and among various
religious orders and houses.
best, JBW
John B. Wickstrom
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Bonjour,
le 24.10.2005, vous avez écrit:
> Also, he doesn't point out that a simple feast doesn't have a second
> Vespers (i.e. that the first Vespers is the festal one), although that
> ought to be implied by his "The liturgical day begins with Vespers
> sung on the preceding evening..." That is to say, he isn't really
> distinguishing between simple and double feasts (possibly because the
> Monastic Use doesn't seem to actually employ the term 'Double Feast'.)
> John Briggs
Double feast meant originally a real double office: the ferial office and
the feast office, or even the feast office and a lesser feast office.
Later, the ferial office was completely suppressed by "double"
feasts, and a system of "memoriae" was instituted for concurrent
feasts. E.g., many times you have second vespers of a feast up to
the "capitulum", then the following according to the next feast, with
the memoria of the former. Usually, a memoria implyes that after the
Gospel Canticle and Collecta of the day one has to sing the Canticle
Antiphon of the memoria with a verse and its collecta.
Some memoriae were celebrated every day.
I don't think there was two complines.
Post tridentine breviarys have a codified set of rules (very complicated)
for every possible case of occurrence of feasts. You could start there
(look at breviarys from before St Pius X)
Avec mes meilleures salutations
--
Luca Basilio Ricossa
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