medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
From: Diana Wright <[log in to unmask]>
> Oh.
> DW
which is to say, "Ahhhh...." ?
lovely sound, that.
c
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> From: "Christopher Crockett" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [M-R] Query: Abbot and Evangelists?
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> From: Diana Wright <[log in to unmask]>
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> > I need some help as seeing this as the BVM.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/cdesastre20008/DSCN4210.JPG
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>
> well, mostly it's a matter of it being a familiar "Sedes Sapientia" type,
frontal, axial.
>
> otherwise it's just some lady (wearing a dress), with a cruciform halo,
holding a Christ child on her lap.
>
> Zarnecki suggests an influence from the "Throne of Wisdom" wooden sculptures
of the French Auvergne, but i think that there's no need to go that far afield
--surely there were thousands of examples in England, most all of which have
not survived.
> >Ears poking out?
> it's a Cultural thing.
> kinky.
> the English have always been Big on Ears.
> just look at the present Prince Charlie.
>>The chin?
> and weak chins.
>> The right hand looks like it is held to represent the Trinity, thumb
holding down 1st finger so only 3 stick up.
> yes, that's what i was "reading" at first, and called it a very unusual
_mudra_.
> but Zarnecki's color plate is much clearer and you can see that she is
holding a round, coin-like (or broach-like) object between her thumb and her
bent-down index finger.
> not unusual for her to hold something like that, i think.
>>I don't see a small round object.
> if you enlarge the image to its full size (put the cursor on it and then
click on the little "arrows" icon which appears in the lower right corner),
you can "read" the fingers that way, if you try hard and really, really want
to.
> Faith Before Reason.
> Zarnecki also mentions the unusual "mandorala" behind the Virgin and
suggests that it is the back of the throne she is seated on (some kind of
wickerwork??).
> but i don't know whether i can swallow that one --though, taken together
with the *very* unusual cruciform halo she's got (alas, mostly cropped out in
Carlos' .jpg), there may be some intent on the pious sculptor's part to
conflate throne and mandorla to enhance Our Lady's stature.
> the church was dedicated to the BVM.
> c
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