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Subject:

Re: Nursing Essays.com

From:

Mike Reddy <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Plagiarism <[log in to unmask]>, Mike Reddy <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:28:18 +0100

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The reply to Duncan shows some hipocracy:

"Some sites such as www.ukessays.com write an ENTIRE new essay on any 
topic somebody is willing to pay for. In my opinion, these kinds of 
sites are the criminals and should be banned altogether."

so Nursing Essays dot com should be 'partially banned' ;-)

and...

"Nursing-essays.com provides model essays to be used as a GUIDE. Not to 
be copied entirely."

OK, so we can only cut and paste bits of it, yes?

"They also have references which are useful to direct people to other 
sources of information which they may not have known about previously."

Given that these were all supposed to have received 71% or better, I 
would hope they had references!

Phil Baty sent this press release to me prior to it being posted here - 
I encouraged him to gauge the opinions of this list - So, I am grateful 
that Duncan's sentiments are similar to my own. Here is my initial 
response to him:


> From: Mike Reddy <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2 August 2005 16:44:27 BST
> To: "Baty, Phil" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Help for student nurses strugling with their essay 
> writing arrives in the form of Nursing-Essays.com]
>
> OK.
>
> Let's look at each idea in turn:
>
> 1) Why Nursing?
> Nursing related essays do seem to be common amongst essays available 
> on eBay (FROM my previous research, the others being business and mech 
> eng). Nursing students are often mature students with families, who 
> are returning to education in order to get a vocational qualification, 
> because they want to do the job. They have to reconcile family life, 
> shift work and attending university, and in some cases, are now having 
> to conform to standard university expectations for student assessment; 
> as many (most?) nurse training establishments are now integrated into 
> universities. Therefore, these students are under a great deal more 
> stress than most students. Time management is not an option for them, 
> it's a requirement, and a possibly impossible one at that.
>
> So, it can be understood why a company might target them. It's a 
> strong temptation, when much assessment content will change little as 
> it is not too dynamic - possibly more so for doctors - with the 
> exception of legislation-related or reflective assignments.
>
> 2) Why a 'blatant' press release?
>
> Ah, the oxygen of publicity! If they get you to write a big stink, 
> more students may get to hear of them and then potentially use their 
> service.
>
> Got to be careful here. Maybe a quote from iParadigms or JISCPAS 
> saying they will be targeting the site?
>
> 3) How to do the dirty?
>
> Have you challenged them on the "oh please don't use it to plagiarise" 
> disclaimer? We have had several very vociferous essay bankers stating 
> they are doing it for the money, or so students get more time - in the 
> bar was one quote I remember - and the quality is shit - George 
> Oppenheim's stuff - and you can hardly complain can you...
>
> In the end, while some may slip, most if not all nursing students are 
> ethical creatures. Maybe worthwhile making the "but if you cheat and 
> pass, one day you may fail and someone die" argument. Get an ethics 
> person in, but not that bloody Furedi. He really pisses me off!
>
> Mike

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