Actually, Fil, in Canada, I know of one faculty doing the first:
Here at the University of Montreal the doctoral students in the Faculty of
Environmental Design have three preparatory seminars for research at the
doctoral level. I unfortunately have no time to expand on this ( judgement
on the positive or negative aspects of such preparation)....but can do so if
you are interested,
Best regards,
Tiiu Poldma
----- Original Message -----
From: "Filippo A. Salustri" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Rigor and supervision ...
> Kristina et al,
>
> Of course this bring up the peculiar notion of researchers helping
> others to learn to do research without having necessarily learned about
> researching formally.
>
> ...wouldn't it make sense to have PhD students take courses on the
> matter of research as a subject? Rather like expecting PhD holders
> destined for the lecture hall to have had some training in teaching?
>
> Dunno about elsewhere, but neither is provided here in Canada. Rather
> sad, actually.
>
> Cheers.
> Fil
>
> kristina niedderer wrote:
> > Dear Fil, Susan, et al,
> >
> > just a brief additional thought an Fil's
> > characterisation of a good supervisor. I agree that
> >
> >
> >>the ability to guide researchers as needed without
> >>necessarily being a "domain expert".
> >
> >
> > is extremely important for successful supervision.
> > What I want to point out is the key issue that is
> > hidden under this characterisation. It seems to me
> > that the fact that a researcher/supervisor is able to
> > provide this kind of guidance shows that the
> > researcher/supervisor really has understood what
> > research is about, i.e. its structures and logic, and
> > therefore is able to offer advice beyond his/her own
> > subject.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kristina
> >
> > Dr Kristina Niedderer, UK
> > email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > --- Filippo Salustri <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >>Susan et al,
> >>
> >>I think Susan has found a key characteristic of good
> >>'supervisors': the
> >>ability to guide researchers as needed without
> >>necessarily being a
> >>"domain expert". My own advisor was the same way.
> >>The way he said it
> >>was: "By the time you finish, your expertise in the
> >>area of your
> >>dissertation should exceed mine."
> >>
> >>This admission of being left behind by one's own
> >>students is not
> >>something that just any academic can do.
> >>
> >>Cheers.
> >>Fil
> >
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
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>
>
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