Chuck,
"intended outcome" works for me too.
...for me, the only feature of thing-ness is that one can distinguish it
from other things, but I can see how others might take it differently.
Cheers.
Fil
Charles Burnette wrote:
> Fil,
>
> I would rather my words, like yours, said "the intended outcome of
> designing" and avoided the "thing" thing altogether. The resolution of an
> intentionally focussed situation is more far-ranging than the word "thing"
> indicates ie.- thing is just another incarnation of the instrumental
> "object" (artifact) fallacy.
>
> Best regards,
> Chuck
>
>
> On 11/17/05 1:04 PM, "Filippo A. Salustri" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>>Chuck,
>>
>>I understand what you're saying, and I agree.
>>
>>'Artefact' wasn't a good word to use. I meant by the intended result of
>>designing, or, perhaps, using your words, the thing that lets the
>>intention be resolved.
>>
>>Does that sound more reasonable?
>>Cheers.
>>Fil
>>
>>Charles Burnette wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/7/05 1:46 PM, "Filippo A. Salustri" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Put another way, the situation is the operating environment into which
>>>>the designers add some artefact, for the sake of causing a change in
>>>>that environment.
>>>
>>>
>>>Fil,
>>>
>>>I don't believe a designer has to add an artifact to an environment in order
>>>to transform it (assuming you mean artifact as "object"). The word
>>>"situation" is better than "context", or even "circumstances" because
>>>context often involves what went before and what follows, while
>>>circumstances are attributes of a situation. A situation, in my view, is
>>>what is focused on by design, whether to understand it (research) or
>>>transform it (design). A "situation" is not an object or an environment it
>>>is the focus of an intention, and constrained (given focus and scope) by the
>>>intention. It may persist over time until the intention is resolved. At
>>>least that is what I think.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>
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