Hi,
I agree that this would be extremely helpful.
I have another question? Does the ALPSP issue any guidelines on what should
happen when a publisher takes over another publisher?
The reason I am asking is that this can cause real problems. I use the case
of what has happened with Dekker journals to illustrate some of the many
issues that can arise.
From the beginning of 2005 the content for 2005 "Dekker" journals began
appearing on MetaPress. Content from the old Dekker site began moving across
to MetaPress at the end of January. We were advised to still use the old
Dekker site for pre-2005 content until all the older content had been moved
across to the MetaPress site. We were advised that all the back content
would be ready by the end of February. So we had to maintain two sets of
links to Dekker journals during this transition period. Unfortunately the
journals on the old Dekker site only had redirects to the main Dekker site,
not to each individual journal title. There has never been any information
on the old Dekker journals site to inform users that the new content was
going to be on MetaPress, although there was a message on each journals
homepage on the old Dekker site which says "Beginning January 2005, new
content for this journal is available only at Taylor & Francis' official
online journal site at Metapress: http://taylorandfrancis.metapress.com.
Back issue content available at Dekker.com will also be made available on
Metapress, with all content available on Metapress by March 2005. On this
day or after, this page will be removed". However, there was no
reverse-redirection in place i.e. from MetaPress to the old Dekker site to
assist users who were looking for content which hadn't yet migrated across
to MetaPress.
The full transfer of content from the Dekker site is still not complete e.g.
the content Journal of Trace and Microprobe Techniques which became
incorporated into Instrumentation Science and Technology from 2004 is still
not on the MetaPress site.
Some Dekker journals even changed their title from the beginning of 2005,
adding extra confusion i.e. were these real changes of titles? e.g.
1. Journal of Toxicology: Cutaneous and Ocular Toxicology became Cutaneous
and Ocular Toxicology with all the content for the former title being
subsumed under the new title on MetaPress.
2. Journal of Toxicology: Toxin Reviews became Toxin Reviews from 2005, but
MetaPress says nothing about the former journal title, and all the content
for the former title is subsumed under the new title.
3. Journal of Toxicology: Clinical Toxicology became Clinical Toxicology
from 2005, but MetaPress says nothing about the former journal title, and
all the content for the former title is subsumed under the new title.
Some Dekker journals that had changed their title when they were published
by Dekker are on MetaPress under the old title: e.g.
1. Artificial Cells, Blood Substitutes, and Immobilization Biotechnology
changed its title to Artificial Cells, Blood Substitutes and Biotechnology
from 2003 - yet MetaPress has all the content for this title under its old
title and has no information about the new title.
I did send an email to T&F on the 20/04/05, which was forwarded to the
person responsible for dealing with the transfer of Dekker titles to
MetaPress, detailing various problems and queries, including those above,
and many of those problems have now been fixed. However, I have yet to have
a reply detailing which fixes have been done, leaving me with no choice but
to constantly visit the T&F site to see whether each problem that I detailed
has been fixed.
My intention in sending this email is to try and get better standards when
such takeovers take place. I am sure that all kinds of problems come out of
the woodwork when the process of transferring content etc. is undertaken.
It's just that the example of Dekker seems to encapsulate all the problems
that could possibly happen. One thing that would have helped in this interim
period was to have backward and forward redirects to the specific journals.
That way users could have easily skipped between content on the old and new
site for a specific journal until transfer was complete. Maybe for a short
period the content could be dual published on both the old and new site,
until all outstanding problems are sorted?
On a final note, I've just discovered that we don't have access to the
titles that I detailed in an email to T&F on 20/04/05 that weren't
previously on MetaPress, but now are and which we should have rights to
access. The work never ends does it?
What do others think?
Cheers
Lesley
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-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sally Morris (ALPSP)
Sent: 16 June 2005 10:21
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Triangle Journals Ltd
Would it be helpful if ALPSP added backfile access to the considerations
addressed in its guidance on ' When a society journal changes publisher'
(www.alpsp.org/socjourn1.pdf)? Many of the considerations are actually
applicable to any journal change of publisher, society or otherwise.
Sally
Sally Morris, Chief Executive
Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers South House, The
Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex BN13 3UU, UK
Tel: +44 (0)1903 871 686
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Alston" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Triangle Journals Ltd
> Hello,
>
> I would also like to echo Lesley's request for clarity regarding the
> subsequent availability of backfile content when titles change hands.
>
> We recently lost access to several years of online content when the
> European journal of sport science moved from Human Kinetics to Taylor
> & Francis. Apparently Taylor & Francis have not purchased the
> backfiles and Human Kinetics have now removed them from their website.
> In the meantime we have not received a refund and do not have the
> print issues to fall back on.
>
> Steve Alston
> Serials & E-Resources Librarian
> University of Bath
> Bath, UK
> Tel. +44 (0) 1225 385442
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>
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:59:46 +0100 Lesley Crawshaw
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Further to Louise's comments I wondered whether we could have
>> clarification
>> on whether all full text content currently available at Triangle Journals
>> Ltd's site at: http://www.triangle.co.uk/ will be on MetaPress from the
>> beginning of 2006 alongside the new 2006 content?
>>
>> I ask this question in light of our experiences with Dekker journals
>> where
>> 2006 content was only published on MetaPress with the pre-2005 content
>> being
>> transferred across from MetaPress over a long period, a process which I
>> understand is still not fully completed. It didn't help that the redirect
>> from each journal on the old Dekker site at: e.g.
>> http://www.dekker.com/servlet/product/productid/ADA for The American
>> Journal
>> of Drug and Alcohol Abuse only takes one to the main T&F MetaPress site
>> rather than to the specific journal itself, which hasn't been very
>> helpful
>> for users trying to locate content that hasn't yet made it across to the
>> MetaPress site.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lesley
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Lesley Crawshaw, Faculty Information Consultant,
>> Learning and Information Services,
>> University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, AL10 9AB UK
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Acreman, Beverley
>> Sent: 15 June 2005 14:17
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Triangle Journals Ltd
>>
>>
>> Thanks for raising that issue Louise - I apologise for omitting it
>> from
>> the
>> main announcement.
>>
>> We have no plans to change the backfile access policy for the
>> Triangle journals but we will monitor the situation and review it at
>> the end of 2006.
>>
>> Do let me know if you have any further questions.
>>
>> Bev
>>
>> Bev Acreman
>> Global Marketing & Customer Services Director
>> Taylor & Francis
>> 4 Park Square
>> Milton Park
>> Abingdon, Oxfordshire
>> OX14 4RN
>> Em: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louise Cole
>> Sent: 15 June 2005 13:39
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Triangle Journals Ltd
>>
>> Although this is interesting news, perhaps T&F could confirm if they
>> intend
>> to continue the practice of making Triangle titles freely available after
>> a
>> year (or to honour this on the backfile of the titles they take over)?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Louise
>>
>> Louise Cole
>> Electronic Resources Team Leader
>> Health Sciences Library
>> University of Leeds
>> Leeds
>> LS2 9JT
>>
>> tel. 0113 34 35502
>> fax. 0113 34 34381
>>
>> email. [log in to unmask]
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Acreman, Beverley
>> Sent: 15 June 2005 13:08
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Triangle Journals Ltd
>>
>>
>> **Apologies for Cross Posting**
>>
>>
>>
>> Taylor & Francis Acquires Triangle Journals Ltd
>>
>>
>>
>> Taylor & Francis Group Ltd is delighted to announce the expansion of
>> its education publishing programme with the inclusion of the Triangle
>> journals.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The following is a list of the titles to be published by Taylor &
>> Francis with effect from the 2006 volume:
>>
>>
>>
>> Educational Action Research
>>
>> print 0965-0792 online 1747-5074
>>
>>
>>
>> International Studies in Sociology of Education
>>
>> print 0962-0214 online 1747-5066
>>
>>
>>
>> Journal of In-service Education
>>
>> print 1367-4587 online 1747-5082
>>
>>
>>
>> Journal of Vocational Education and Training
>>
>> print 1363-6820 online 1747-5090
>>
>>
>>
>> Pedagogy, Culture and Society
>>
>> print 1468-1366 online 1747 5104
>>
>>
>>
>> Research in Post-Compulsory Education
>>
>> print 1359-6748 online 1747-5112
>>
>>
>>
>> Teacher Development
>>
>> print 1366-4530 online 1747-5120
>>
>>
>>
>> Technology, Pedagogy and Education
>>
>> print 1475-939x online 1747-5139
>>
>>
>>
>> Women's History Review
>>
>> print 0961-2025 online 1747-583x
>>
>>
>>
>> Women's Writing
>>
>> print 0969-9082 online 1747-5848
>>
>>
>>
>> Triangle Journals Ltd will continue to process the subscription
>> orders/renewals and to despatch issues for the 2005 volumes. Any
>> correspondence regarding these should be sent to:
>>
>>
>>
>> Triangle Journals Ltd
>>
>> PO Box 65
>>
>> Wallingford
>>
>> Oxfordshire
>>
>> OX10 0YG
>>
>> United Kingdom
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>> Taylor & Francis will be mailing subscription renewals for the 2006
>> volumes
>> and any queries relating to these should be sent to:
>>
>>
>>
>> T&F Customer Services
>>
>> T&F Informa UK Ltd
>>
>> Sheepen Place
>>
>> Colchester
>>
>> Essex
>>
>> CO3 3LP
>>
>> United Kingdom
>>
>> +44 (0) 20 7017 5544
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that Roger Osborn-King will continue publishing books and
>> e-journals under the Symposium imprint. Details can be found at:
>> http://www.symposium-journals.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you need any assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bev Acreman
>>
>> Taylor & Francis
>>
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