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Re: diegesis

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Mikal Howard <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 3 Oct 2005 01:02:27 -0700

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thanks...

a few words on polarization into the mental or
hyperintellectualism -- 

i was lucky enoug hto be in a rock band called ABANDON
EARTH (which not to brag is now the name of my
mockumentary about rock in the nineties, still seeking
help!)
Bill, the second guitarist was a linguistics major at
the University of pennsylvania and i was an acid head
club kid who could sing and they needed a singer. (we
were all acid heads. the dead flowed through every
summer and the neighborhood dosed.)

Bill was into Deleuze and Guattari and introduced me to
ANTIOEDIPUS.  i will say this as someone who opted after
h. s. graduation to go to university later in life when
i was done learning about things -- i will never read
all of capitalism and Schizophrenia.  But I grokked the
context. I am not a cowardly intellect but there is such
a thing as being inundated, being saturated. i am just
an anarchist, a hold out from the eighties who is
disgusted by capitalism.  Deleuze and Guattari - just
having  the barest understanding -- add fuel to the fire
of my arguments and give me a reason not to sell oyutand
give up like many who i knew in the eighties who have
given up on anarchism in much the same way as most
Hippies gave up on their ideas and ideals -- like my
former Hippie parents.

i have gotten tired of talking to the people in a
Deleuze group i am a member of and couldn'[t moderate --
because it would be too much reading. name
dropping...name dropping -- Capitalism DOES create
schizoid and psychotic breaksa speople forget who they
are and what they wanted whenthey were young in pursuit
of the almighty "piece of worthless paper" - as they
complain about government and yet expect that same
government to reliquish power without intelectual and
heartfelt presentation of alternative they manifest as
ultimatley fragmented and schizoid -- and there we see
the genius of men like D&G -- even if the result is that
they leave behind a vapor trail of prattling
hyperintellectuals who can't really seem to make a
coment without mentioning foucault, deleuze...

this what i am doing here -- this is neither flame nor a
rant. i am not angry with anyone on this list1 

I am expressing opinion.  I have read that Artaud, my
ghostly mentor, hated the mis-en-scene, hated actors,
hated plays and theater.  i don't know.  i am just a
hack compared to him. 

But there is such a thing as hyperintellectualizing. Is
it the western mind -- that almost always (hold on)
vacillates between milquetaost and macho man and is
thusly imbalanced and can't find a harmonious middle
ground?

people do so.  each day. a lot of us are artists.

i still don't know really what 'diegesis' means.  i will
probably kill a few braincells with beer trying to
figure it out. but i appreciate that people who are
obviously in the academic world (i am waiting) can
filter down some of what they have learned to a street
punk blesed enough to be literate. 

anyway...

mikal x

--- Warren Buckland <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> In response to the observations about where the term
> 'diegesis' comes 
>  from in film studies, a good starting point is a 1953
> essay by Etienne 
> Souriau, 'La structure d'univers filmique et le
> vocabulaire de la 
> filmologie', _La Revue Internationale de Filmologie_,
> 7/8, pp. 231-40. 
> The meaning of this concept is more apparent when
> placed in the context 
> of the other six concepts Souriau introduced:
> 
> 1. afilmic reality (the reality that exists
> independently of film)
> 2. profilmic reality (the reality photographed by the
> camera)
> 3. filmographic reality (the film as physical object,
> structured by 
> techniques such as editing)
> 4. screenic (or filmophanic) reality (the film as
> projected on a 
> screen)
> 5. diegetic reality (the fictional story world created
> by the film)
> 6. spectatorial reality (the spectator's perception
> and comprehension 
> of a film), and
> 7. creational reality (the filmmaker's intentions).
> 
> Warren Buckland
> Editor, New Review of Film and Television Studies:
> http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/titles/17400309.asp
> 
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