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Subject:

Re: google - part of the solution or part of the problem?

From:

Burkard Schafer <[log in to unmask]>

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Plagiarism <[log in to unmask]>, Burkard Schafer <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:08:36 -0000

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Mhh, not so sure. Look at this one:

 http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=593338

The answer is indeed nothing but websources. The "comment" however is a free
text answer. Not an essay in itself, true, and not to be expected given the
price and the time limit. But answer and comment  taken together, I could
easily write an answer to the original question, despite no previous
knowledge of the field, and in a way that the result is not any longer
straightforwardly copied. 
This just cost the user $3 - I don't know if they would get more if they
paid more, but this is much cheaper than an essay bank

Burkhard


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
> Behalf Of Diane Brewster
> Sent: 16 November 2005 14:52
> To: Plagiarism; Burkard Schafer
> Subject: Re: google - part of the solution or part of the problem?
> 
> 
> On 16 Nov 2005, at 14:41, Burkard Schafer wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	Hi all
> 	
> 	Most of us are (also) using Google to detect web 
> plagiarism. What I found by
> 	coincidence however is this service offered by Google:
> 	http://answers.google.com/answers/
> 	
> 	For a negotiated fee, you can post queries and a "500 
> strong team of
> 	experts" will give you the answer. I had a look at some 
> sample questions.
> 	Many were of this nature:
> 	
> 	"Compare the solubilities of sodium chloride, potassium 
> chloride and
> 	sodium iodide in water, ethanol and vegetable oil. How do you
> 	determine the solubility of the liquids in each other. 
> Then, how do
> 	you classify these substances by bond type"
> 	
> 	I'd say that looks like an essay question to me. That 
> specific one did not
> 	have any answer, but while there is a list of question 
> types that Google
> 	rules impermissible, there is nothing that mentions use for
> 	school/university purposes explicitly
> 	
> 	
> 
> 
> I went looking for one which had an "answer" - and basically 
> it is just a list of sources.
> 
> http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=592879
> 
> so might save someone unskilled in google searches a bit of 
> time, but isn't giving them an essay.
> 
> Diane
> 
> 
> Diane Brewster
> Research Fellow
> IDEAS Lab
> Dept Informatics
> University of Sussex
> Falmer
> Brighton BN19QH
> 
> http://ideas.fcs.sussex.ac.uk/~D.M.Brewster/
> 
> 

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