medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Angus Graham <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> What is this list for?
a good question.
or "for whom", perhaps?
> Oriens' return, in all innocence, seems to have started a controversy
which could become quite blistering.
i see no reason whatever why it should, and have no intention of helping it
become so --as, i am sure do you do not (or do, have no intention?).
> chat (which, in any case, is not the purpose of Oriens' e-mail)?
seemed like it wasn't, to me as well.
and i answered it as such.
my comment about Mellen as a publisher was prompted by the fact that i have
recently been invited to review a recent publication of theirs
http://www.mellenpress.com/mellenpress.cfm?bookid=5481&pc=9
and have been struck by the combination of the shoddyness of the production,
the sloppyness of the "scholarship" and the outrageous price.
my posts to this list --and the other three i subscribe to, and the two which
i "own" myself-- are, almost always and quite *deliberately* composed of a
certain percentage of what might be termed "chat" (usually in the form of what
i take to be humor, though i've certainly not lost my amateur standing on that
field of play, viz-a-viz Ole Oriens) and a core of Substance.
apparently it was my "this list was about dying in a sea of Pedanticism sans
Humour" which aroused the ListMommie's Umbridge.
i have myself, on many, many occasions been called a Pedant, which i'll have
to cop to, i suppose.
but never "sans Humour".
on that front, however, we must agree that, relatively speaking, the list has,
indeed, clearly suffered from a lack of that particular and precious commodity
since OO's "leaving" it a while ago.
and i, for one, miss the particular _panache_ with which he *constantly* and
*consistently* managed to combine the Subtlest of Sparkling Wit with nothing
less than Profound Scholarship and Erudition in most all of his posts.
>I am extremely bothered that the current list-ownership does not permit us to
digress into areas which, surely, are to do with medievalia (e.g. Mel Gibson's
'Passion' -- texts of which abound for all of the medieval period).
seconded.
i intended to call the guy who Pontificated that that "film" was not suitable
for discussion in this forum and Cried Out that the ListMommies should rush in
to protect us Kidies from ourselves.
specifically, i find gibson's "Vision" to be quite remarkably similar to a
great deal of medieval --particularly late medieval-- "sensibility".
Mathais Grunewald springs to mind most immediately, of course.
http://www.eldritchpress.org/jkh/gr5.html
as well as Bosch's characterisation of the Jews on the road to Calvary
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/b/bosch/painting/carrying.html
etc.
the recent "rebirth" of this sensibilty in the form of a Mass Media "work of
art" by one of our own --arguably quite "disturbed"-- contemporaries is
certainly enlightening as far as understanding what this particular
"sensibility" actually involved in its previous incarnations, including that
of the period we are all interested in.
> I have seen the white-fingered corporate hand of death elsewhere --
well, that's a bit strong.
and, certainly Carolyn's motives are Well Meaning.
however Miss Guided.
> previously, for example, under the Stalinists in what was the Czech
Republic.
i won't touch that one with a Pole, much less a Czech, Angus.
> From against the Stone Mountains of Southern Arabia
say, is that where "The Old Man" lived?
c
Gib$son'$ Folly:
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/jd/2004/jd040224.gif
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