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Re: Ontology (was Design Methodologies) ... New conceptual struct ures

From:

Jan Coker <[log in to unmask]>

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Jan Coker <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 22 Apr 2004 15:22:15 +0930

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      Ken,
      I forget to mention that I like your additions to the cartoon version,
particularly - acting wisely with stuff and people.
      Regards,
      Jan

      Jan Coker
      C3-10 Underdale
      University of South Australia
      +61 8 8302 6919
      fax +61 8 8302 6239
      There is no way to Peace, Peace is the Way Gandhi
      -----Original Message-----
From: Ken Friedman [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2004 1:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Ontology (was Design Methodologies) ... New conceptual structures

      Dear Jan,

      The cartoon version you offer here seems fine with me. If the original
words
      mean what they mean -- which they roughly do, as good cartoons should --
      then your new conceptual structure offers a viable model for dialogue.

      I'd make a modest suggestion that builds on this:

      Ontology = the study of what is
      Epistemology = the study of how and what we know or can know
      Praxis = action or practice
      Poeisis = making
      Ethics = the study of judgement and behavior
      Phronesis = the exercise of wise judgement

      I like your three-part schema. Given the fact that the world of stuff is
also
      the world of human beings, I'd build on it this way to suggest three
categories

      Thinking about stuff and people
      Working with stuff and people
      Acting wisely with stuff and people

      Because all are linked, it is impossible to separate them in action. The
main
      reason for distinctions among them is to discern the nature and qualities
of
      each so that we may practice all as well as possible in a joined-up way.

      Best regards,

      Ken



      >       Fil,
      >       Humans also exist. Discussion is interesting, to simplify to the
extreme
      >or for a cartoon version: ontology = what is; epistemology = knowing
(how and
      >what); ethics = doing. I would suggest it is not possible to separate
them
      >entirely from each other. Further in reality, since they all have to do
with
      >language and understanding or it would not be possible to articulate the
      >concepts with language, they can be considered to be all about life.
      >Or another
      >definition of the three categories might be: stuff, thinking about
stuff, and
      >acting in context with stuff.
      >       Regards, Jan

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