fil,
what if the "owners" exercised their "ultimate power" and nobody complied?
there would be no power to exercise! don't confuse technology (hardware,
mechanism) with a social network that is supported by that technology.
nobody can own a social network based on voluntary participation. let's not
use legal metaphors (ownership) where they are plainly misleading (as far as
a viable network is concerned)
klaus
-----Original Message-----
From: Filippo Salustri [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:27 AM
To: Klaus Krippendorff
Subject: Re: rules leadership policing: ideas on how to keep the list
running
Klaus,
They are the list "owners". They have by definition an "ultimate power"
in the world of the list that no one else has. They chose to exercise
their power by creating rules for the list that take into account the
needs and desires of a vaguely defined membership. But they could not
have done so without having the "ultimate power" of ownership of the list.
Happy holidays.
Cheers.
Fil
Klaus Krippendorff wrote:
> (1) good leaders never use their ultimate powers. if they do they become
> tyrants
>
> (2) in social organizations in which participation is voluntary and the
> stakes of non-participation are not high, ultimate powers are vacuous
> constructions of an bygone era
>
> klaus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and
> related research in Design [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
> Of Filippo A. Salustri
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:03 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: rules leadership policing: ideas on how to keep the list
> running
>
>
> The list owners do have ultimate power to set the rules as they see fit.
>
> If they set everyday operational rules per the general wishes of the
> community and in an open and consultative way, they do so because they
have
> *by fiat* established as a (meta)rule that they will behave this way.
>
> Just because the owners are behaving in a completely professional and
> egalitarian manner doesn't mean they are not exercising their 'ultimate
> power'.
>
> Cheers.
> Fil
>
> Klaus Krippendorff wrote:
>
> > i would hope that the list managers do not claim the ultimate power to
> set
> > the rules as they see fit.
> >
> > i prefer that they see themselves as facilitators, as proposing rules
> that
> > encourage the majority, ideally all members of a list, to feel at home
> and
> > comfortable enough to formulate challenges and risk being mistaken.
the
> > list managers should also be forgiven for making mistakes if they are
> > willing to learn from them and propose changes to the rules.
> >
> > where participation is voluntary, rules are only as good as members
(and
> > leaders) are willing to interpret them.
> >
> > klaus
>
> --
> Prof. Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng.
> Department of Mechanical and Industrial Engineering
> Ryerson University Tel: 416/979-5000 x7749
> 350 Victoria St. Fax: 416/979-5265
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