At 04:04 PM 8/20/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>Where one is born is not a definition of nationality. I beg to differ from
>Geoffrey. In my opinion, Paul is absolutely correct and as a fellow-Scot, I
>concur with his indication as to how this surname should be properly
>pronounced.
>
>Duncan Haldane
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "G.J. Roper" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Malise Ruthven is in fact Irish, born in Dublin. Although descended from
> > Scots, I rather doubt that he uses the old Scottish aristocratic
> > pronunciation of the surname.
> >
> > On Aug 20 2004, Paul Auchterlonie wrote:
> >
> > > Ruthven is an old Scottish name (it is the family name of the Earls
> > > of Gowrie) and is pronounced RIven as in riven by jealousy. Malise is
> > > pronounced MaLEEZ, and has no connections to Scotland as far as I
> > > know.
> > > Paul Auchterlonie.
My thanks to the above, and to St.John Armitage, who responded
privately. I would never have guessed that the name comes from the Gaelic,
and would certainly have never arrived at "riven" as its correct
pronunciation.
Ed Jajko
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