Where one is born is not a definition of nationality. I beg to differ from
Geoffrey. In my opinion, Paul is absolutely correct and as a fellow-Scot, I
concur with his indication as to how this surname should be properly
pronounced.
Duncan Haldane
----- Original Message -----
From: "G.J. Roper" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: Malise Ruthven
> Malise Ruthven is in fact Irish, born in Dublin. Although descended from
> Scots, I rather doubt that he uses the old Scottish aristocratic
> pronunciation of the surname.
>
> Geoffrey Roper
> Cambridge
>
> On Aug 20 2004, Paul Auchterlonie wrote:
>
> > Ruthven is an old Scottish name (it is the family name of the Earls
> > of Gowrie) and is pronounced RIven as in riven by jealousy. Malise is
> > pronounced MaLEEZ, and has no connections to Scotland as far as I
> > know.
> > Paul Auchterlonie.
> >
> > ----------------------
> > Paul Auchterlonie
> > Librarian for Middle East Studies
> > University of Exeter
> > Old Library
> > Prince of Wales Road
> > Exeter EX4 4PX
> > U.K.
> > Tel.: 01392 264051
> > Fax.: 01392 263871
> > E-Mail: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:29:58 -0700 "Edward A. Jajko"
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > No need to duck and cover, everyone; just a question about
> > > pronunciation. The front page of my new TLS, just received, leads me
to
> > > ask if one of my British colleagues would tell me how the name "Malise
> > > Ruthven" is correctly pronounced. I am sure that I have mispronounced
> > > it over the years to faculty, students, staff colleagues, and the
> > > public. A sort of phonetic rendering would be appreciated. MaLEEZ?
> > > Malice, as if aforethought? ROOTHven? RUHTHven? Etc.
> > >
> > > In turn, I will satisfy those who may be curious about how to
pronounce
> > > Ed Jajko
> >
> > ----------------------
> > Paul Auchterlonie
> > Librarian for Middle East Studies
> > University of Exeter
> > Old Library
> > Prince of Wales Road
> > Exeter EX4 4PX
> > U.K.
> > Tel.: 01392 264051
> > Fax.: 01392 263871
> > E-Mail: [log in to unmask]
> >
>
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