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Subject:

Re: Powerpoint

From:

Mark Gamble <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Mark Gamble <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:54:31 +0100

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Try doing a Save as HTML of a PowerPoint file - and look at the results:
an HTML index page plus a folder with HTML pages and a bunch of jpgs or
gifs. The slides are turned into pictures - completely unreadable. The
only thing that a screen reader would be able to access would be the
transcription you mention. But what appears in the left hand screen is
actually the outline view of the slides - and that will only show text
you've included in the default text placeholders on any given slide.
Independent text = no show.

This is where I think we all have a huge problem - we use presentation
programmes like PowerPoint and Apple's Keynote in our teaching to
explain complex concepts visually. Translating what can be conveyed
visually quite quickly into words is a task which I, personally, find
very daunting indeed. And I think many lecturers will find the time it
takes to be problematic.... Quite apart from things like concept maps or
flow charts,  consider explaining the complex relationships of items in
a simple 10 x 8 (say) table. Now, lest it appear that I'm in danger of
selling short the capabilities of visually-impaired students, what I'm
actually concerned about is the ability of the lecturer to understand
how a v-i person handles information - and thus to translate the graphic
they have created into something verbal which retains the shifting
nature of the elements within the e.g. table.

All I'm saying, I guess, is that I, for one, wouldn't feel at all
confident about attempting the translation  from graphic to text.



--
Regards
Mark

Mark Gamble
Head of Learning Technology Support Service, University of Luton
Tel 07720 068605   Fax 01582 489260    Int ext 2260 / 6360 (mobex)
>>> Sandra Windeatt <[log in to unmask]> 04/26/04 5:33 PM >>>
Further to the readability/accessibility thread, could anyone advise me
about PowerPoint?  I understand that PowerPoint files are not currently
accessible to screen readers for example?  But, would they be if they
were
saved as web pages using the inbuilt facility, AND accompanied by a
transcription of the text, graphics or animations in the NOTES section
that
appears in a third frame on the resulting web version?

Sandra
[log in to unmask]
Newcastle upon Tyne


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Automatic digest processor [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 21 April 2004 00:07
> To: Recipients of BLACKBOARD-USERGROUP digests
> Subject: BLACKBOARD-USERGROUP Digest - 19 Apr 2004 to 20 Apr 2004
> (#2004-46)
>
> Mark,
>
>     See our website at TechDis on creating readable and
> accessible text
> (http://www.techdis.ac.uk/ebooks/Home.htm
> <http://www.techdis.ac.uk/ebooks/Home.htm> ).  This is not
> specifically
> about Blackboard, but it gives guidance and provides style
> sheets to support
> the creation of readable accessible text.  BTW readable is as
> important as
> accessible.  Properly encoded white text on a white
> background is accessible
> to blind users.
>
>     Also, I run workshops for our staff on how to use Word
> and PowerPoint in
> conjunction with a plug-in from Univ. Illinois to produce readable
> accessible materials for inclusion in Bb.  These workshops
> are designed to
> be used by independent online learners in Blackboard.  For an
> acknowledgement and copies of any improvements I am willing
> to share the
> material.  Contact me off list if you would like to have a look at the
> materials.
>
>     Finally, one of my colleagues, Elaine Pearson, who is a
> real expert in
> this field and to whom I am copying this message, also runs still more
> sophisticated training workshops with respect to developing accessible
> online resources.  She has a brief to make this training
> available to UK HE,
> but I don't know what the parameters for that are.  You might
> contact her.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blackboard/Courseinfo userslist
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Gamble
> Sent: 20 April 2004 10:42
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Disability Guidance
>
>
> Hi All
>
> Anybody providing guidance on using Blackboard to their
> disabled users? I
> know there's a link to the Bb generic stuff from the bottom
> of the login
> page - anybody going further and willing to share?
>
> --
> Regards
> Mark
>
> Mark Gamble
> Head of Learning Technology Support Service, University of Luton
> Tel 07720 068605   Fax 01582 489260    Int ext 2260 / 6360 (mobex)
>
>
> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C426C1.90BE41AB
> Content-Type: text/html
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=US-ASCII">
> <TITLE>Message</title>
>
> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR></head>
> <BODY style="MARGIN: 4px 4px 1px; FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
> <DIV><SPAN class=092221210-20042004>Mark,</span></div>
> <DIV><SPAN class=092221210-20042004></span> </div>
> <DIV><SPAN class=092221210-20042004>    See
> our website at
> TechDis on creating readable and accessible text (<A
> href="http://www.techdis.ac.uk/ebooks/Home.htm">http://www.tec
> hdis.ac.uk/ebooks/Home.htm</a>).
> This is not specifically about Blackboard, but it gives
> guidance and provides
> style sheets to support the creation of readable accessible
> text.  BTW
> readable is as important as accessible.  Properly
> encoded white text on a
> white background is accessible to blind users.  </span></div>
> <DIV><SPAN class=092221210-20042004></span> </div>
> <DIV><SPAN class=092221210-20042004>    Also,
> I run workshops for
> our staff on how to use Word and PowerPoint in conjunction
> with a plug-in from
> Univ. Illinois to produce readable accessible materials for
> inclusion in
> Bb.  These workshops are designed to be used by
> independent online learners
> in Blackboard.  For an acknowledgement and copies of any
> improvements I am
> willing to share the material.  Contact me off list if
> you would like to
> have a look at the materials.</span></div>
> <DIV><SPAN class=092221210-20042004></span> </div>
> <DIV><SPAN class=092221210-20042004>
> Finally, one of my
> colleagues, Elaine Pearson, who is a real expert in this
> field and to whom I am
> copying this message, also runs still more sophisticated
> training workshops with
> respect to developing accessible online resources.  She
> has a brief to make
> this training available to UK HE, but I don't know what the
> parameters for that
> are.  You might contact her.</span></div>
> <DIV><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial></font></span> </div>
> <DIV><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial>Regards, </font></span></div>
> <P><SPAN lang=en-gb><FONT face=Arial>Bruce</font></span> </p>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>   <DIV></div>
>   <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
>   face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</b>
> Blackboard/Courseinfo
>   userslist [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> <B>On Behalf Of
>   </b>Mark Gamble<BR><B>Sent:</b> 20 April 2004 10:42<BR><B>To:</b>
>   [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</b> Disability
>   Guidance<BR><BR></font></div>
>   <DIV>Hi All</div>
>   <DIV> </div>
>   <DIV>Anybody providing guidance on using Blackboard to
> their disabled users? I
>   know there's a link to the Bb generic stuff from the bottom
> of the login page
>   - anybody going further and willing to share?</div>
>   <DIV> </div>
>   <DIV>--<BR>Regards<BR>Mark</div>
>   <DIV> </div>
>   <DIV>Mark Gamble<BR>Head of Learning Technology Support
> Service, University of
>   Luton<BR>Tel 07720 068605   Fax 01582
> 489260    Int
>   ext 2260 / 6360 (mobex)</div></blockquote></body></html>
>
> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C426C1.90BE41AB--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:52:49 +0100
> From:    John Edmonstone <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: text box editor
>
> We have just moved to 6.1 Basic edition. For the
> Announcements we can only
> get 2 rows of the Text Box editor, and not the third row, which allows
> images, file attachments, etc. The handbook for students refers to
> Administrators being able to turn off this third row, but I
> can't find that
> in the Admin handbook. Has anyone else got the third row for
> Announcements,
> and if so how do you turn it on ?
>
> John Edmonstone
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:39:21 +0100
> From:    gerard elder <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: text box editor
>
> You're right - only two rows!! I can't see how to allow file
> attachments =
> etc. in announcements either.
>
> Sorry John. Tried to help but failed miserably!
>
> ......................................................
> Gerard Elder
>
> VLE Systems Development Officer
> Blackboard Administrator
> City of Sunderland College
>
> [log in to unmask]
> tel: 0191 5116005
> fax: 0191 5116163
> ......................................................
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Edmonstone [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 20 April 2004 15:53
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: text box editor
>
>
> We have just moved to 6.1 Basic edition. For the
> Announcements we can =
> only
> get 2 rows of the Text Box editor, and not the third row, which allows
> images, file attachments, etc. The handbook for students refers to
> Administrators being able to turn off this third row, but I
> can't find =
> that
> in the Admin handbook. Has anyone else got the third row for =
> Announcements,
> and if so how do you turn it on ?
>
> John Edmonstone
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of BLACKBOARD-USERGROUP Digest - 19 Apr 2004 to 20 Apr
> 2004 (#2004-46)
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