Dear all,
here is a very late comment to the hibernation discussion:
Last October a colleague of mine who was working on an excavation in
Bremen, North Germany, dug up a small cavity of about 20 cm diameter and
approximately 30 to 40 cm below the surveyed level, which contained five
individuals of amphibians of different species. In detail these were one
frog (Rana lessonae or Rana esculenta), two toads (one of which was Bufo
bufo) and two newts (one of which was Triturus cristatus). The animals
were alive and well though a little bit sleepy and obviously gathered
together for hibernation.
I never heard of such a hibernation community and wonder if this is a
common habit. Next thing I thought about was what kind of interpretation
would one draw, if these critters would have happened to dig themselves
into an archaeological feature, to die there and to be excavated later?
Yours
Christian
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> Betreff: Re: [ZOOARCH] Animals and excarnation
> Datum: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:33:04 -0000
> Von: Prof TP O'Connor <[log in to unmask]>
> Rückantwort: Prof TP O'Connor <[log in to unmask]>
> An: [log in to unmask]
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> I would support Chris G-O's comment about hibernation. Burial mounds
> and cairns in hilly areas of Wales and northern England frequently yield
> quantities of small bones. The bones often occur in discrete patches,
> and are frequently identifiable to toad and water vole. In both cases,
> deaths in hibernation seem quite likely, either through low temperature
> and metabolic collapse, or because a recently constructed mound has
> 'settled', entombing or squashing critters that had taken advantage of
> spaces in the mound interstices. I wouldn't entirely rule out some
> contribution from owls, using a raised mound as a convenient place to
> perch and digest prey, perhaps, but hibernation deaths seem likely to be
> a major source of bones in cairns.
>
> Terry O'Connor
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Gleed-Owen
> Sent: 06 November 2003 10:59
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> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Animals and excarnation
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> If anyone has amphibian & reptile remains from such barrows as Umberto
> mentions, i'd like to identify them! I feel that many occurrences may be
> through hibernation & attempts to find temporary refugia, but it is also
> easy to see signs of digestion in amphibian bones and if raptors or
> mustelids had accumulatede them, it would be clear.
>
> cheers,
> Chris
>
> Dr Chris Gleed-Owen
> Research & Monitoring Officer
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Umberto Albarella
> Sent: 06 November 2003 10:39
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [ZOOARCH] Animals and excarnation
>
>
> Dear Melanie,
>
> the possible link between the finding of bones of carrion eaters (or
> bones deriving from their pellets) and the existence of excarnation
> platforms has been mentioned for a number of Bronze Age barrows in
> England. In particular you may want to see:
>
> Stallibrass, S. 1991. The animal bones from a Bronze Age cairn at
> Hardenale Nab, Cumbria, 1986. London, English Heritage, Ancient
> Monuments Laboratory Report 89/91.
>
> A few years ago I visited myself the excavation of another barrow in
> Derbyshire (north England) - a site called Longstone Edge - where a
> similar association between scavengers and excarnations was suggested
> (and highly publicised in the press). The site produced a massive amount
> of bones of microvertebrates, which I think were mainly deriving from
> pellets (probably owl's). When I left my job in Birmingham I left this
> project behind, but I hope that somebody at English Heritage has taken
> over. I think taht it would be very interesting to know the results of
> the study at some point. Personally I remain unconvinced that there is a
> clear link between the excarnation and the abundance of
> microvertebrates, as owls (if they were indeed responsible for the
> pellets) are not carrion eaters. This is however a fascinating problem,
> which is worth exploring further. A high proportion of prehistoric
> barrows in northern England are packed with bones of small vertebrates
> and we still don't know why. If anybody has made any more research on
> this, I would be very interested to hear.
>
> Cheers,
> Umberto
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