medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Thanks, Tom.
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:17:37 -0600 "F. Thomas Luongo" wrote:
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
>Thanks, John. Simone Martini's St. Dominic "writing" with a lilly is
>indeed one of the images I had in mind. Indeed, Joanna Cannon made this
>observation in 1982 in an article on Simone Martini and the Dominicans,
>though did not say more than that Dominic looks like he is writing.
Did you observe that in the first Dominic+lily I cited the lily flowers are sprouting from a shaft with barbs at the upper end? The images in my previous message, BTW, were hastily obtained through image searching on Google; many of their URLs were probably unstable. Here's that Dominic again, this time from a better source:
http://www.op-stjoseph.org/dominic/picpages/d-lily.htm
and the page that comes from his here:
http://www.op-stjoseph.org/dominic/dom-pics.htm
What I
>would like to know is whether there is any development of this idea in
>medieval religious literature.
Like you, I wondered if this were not specifically (or even chiefly) a Dominican development, so that's where I'd look first for texts. If you have access to the online Acta Sanctorum or any other electronic corpus of late medieval/early modern spiritual writing, you might try proximity searches of words for 'lily' with words for 'writing', 'inscribing', etc.
>
>By the way, one small mistake in your description of the images you very
>helpfully supplied--but a mistake that illustrates the point. In the Pisa
>altarpiece that you identify as showing Dominic and Catherine of Siena,
>that would be Dominic and Catherine of Alexandria. And I think what they
>are holding are martyrs' palms, not quills.
Quite right on both counts. That image too has moved; it's "3pisa.jpg" on this directory:
http://www.kfki.hu/~arthp/art/s/simone/4altars/3pisa/?1071074373
(if that doesn't work, keep working back within the URL).
I had not seen the enlargement, which makes all this perfectly clear. Not only do these palms look like pens, they are held in the same manner as one would hold a pen for writing.
Best again,
John Dillon
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