An SHO who only weighs 23 kg is probably not up to the job and should not have
been shortlisted.

JP

>>> Rowley Cottingham 11/16/03 08:44am >>>
90 candidates? Last time I shortlisted I had so many I lost count and weighed
them - 23kg!
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Accident and Emergency Academic List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Andy Webster
Sent: 15 November 2003 15:39
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Subject: Re: Fw: Foreign doctors after PLAB
 
 
I can understand the difficulty of foreign doctors who wish to work in the UK.
Unfortunately they face a number of problems. There are increasing UK
graduates, who obviously it would be a waste of money spending money training
them for them to be unemployed. There are also an excess number of applicants
for most available HST specialties, especially in surgery, and medicine.
The other difficulty is the problem to obtain UK "experience" without which it
is difficult to get a 1st post. This leads to overseas doctors literally
blanket applying to many UK posts, with their resultant CV's and job
applications not targeted to the post they applied for. This year I helped
shortlist for a 6 week locum post in A&E. We had around 90 applicants mostly
overseas, it is extremely difficult to differentiate between the candidates,
and hence much easier to shortlist based on relevant UK experience.
 
 
 
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On Behalf Of muhammad imran
Sent: 14 November 2003 19:37
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Subject: Re: Fw: Foreign doctors after PLAB
 
Respected Dr. McGeehan,
I am really impressed by the concern and thoughts from your side regarding the
matter of joblessness of foreign doctors from subcontinent. You rightly
mentioned that these doctor had been backbone of NHS and after higher
specialist training along British techniques many went back to home and now
infact working as Professors in many teaching hospitals in their home country.
I dont understand why the policies are not being made or why the concerned
authorities are not addressing the matter of joblessness of foreign doctors
keeping in mind that NHS is still short of doctors. It is not good for NHS
itself and these hightly ambitious and talented doctors who through out their
medical education in medical school study hard and logically keeping in mind
the format of PLAB exams and system of NHS working.
If the opportunity be provided to them, I am sure the problem of NHS will
reduce to less then half. Britain has long history to serve humanity in every
aspect of life and I again expect that tradition to be revived again and I
hope these foreign doctors will be given some sort of releif and they
themselves will later on be able to give releif to the ailing humanity.
I request all the seniors doctors and respected Professors working in NHS
system to step up and contribute positively towards this very important issue.
Regards
Muhammad Imran
Final Year Medical Student
Dow Medical College & Civil Hospital Karachi.
>From: Danny McGeehan 
>Reply-To: Accident and Emergency Academic List 
>To: [log in to unmask] 
>Subject: Fw: Foreign doctors after PLAB 
>Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:04:22 +0000 
> 
>I agree very sad. There is a long tradition of exchange between the UK and
the Indian and as well as other medical schools in the former Commonwealth. 
>I'm using the term India as the country before partition and including
present, India, Pakistan Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. I certainly do not wish to
cause political offence to anyone. 
>Communications were good and a steady stream of highly motivated young
Doctors came to the UK for higher professional Training. They were the
backbone of the NHS. They were trained along the British techniques. Many went
back home and became Seniors in their own countrys. 
>I was having this conversation with a colleague today and I totally agree
with Ray McGlone it is appalling. The NHS is crying out for Doctors and yet
there are hundreds of highly committed young medical practitioners who are
caught in a limbo. 
>Best wishes 
>DFM 
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