medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
I agree.
Tom Izbicki
At 12:26 PM 6/20/2003 -0700, Christopher Crockett wrote:
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
>Rebecca LR Garber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Questio eins:
>looks like a hyphen to me, fwiw.
>
>wwiw [worth's what it's worth], that and $5.00 will get you a cupa coffee at
>almost any Starbucks on the planet.
>
>you are definitly in the majority, among the responses which i've had to this
>question so far.
>
> >questio zwei:
>There is, in the *Leben und Offenbarungen Adelheid Langmann*, a female head
>sketched into the i in the word ich. This is not at the beginning or end of
>the ms, but rather in the middle, on a folio on which ich appears in the top
>line. No desk, book, etc, just a head. Due to context, I would like to read
>it as a self portrait of the scribe.
>If you're interested, I can find the salient info.....I don't know if a) my
>image would scan well or b) what the Staatsbibliothek Berlin would have to say
>about it, probably a lot, most of it negative.
>
>
>no need to get the Staatsbibliothekpolitzei on your case, Rebecca.
>
>as i just indicated to Professor Brunner, my interest is very narrow and i am
>only trying to get an idea about how common (or not) such self-portraits are
>generally.
>
>your example is statistically significant, but quite late, i assume (?).
>
>also, it doesn't --from your description-- to be *quite* as unequivocal an
>example as the Chartres/Fleury one is :
>
>http://www.ariadne.org/centrechartraine/mss/chartresmss/chartresms29-244v-rotbert.jpg
>
>i mean, there really isn't any reasonable doubt about this one, is there?
>
>(the ms in question is, mostly, a copy of Rufinus' translation of Josephus,
>btw, so there's no question of a true author portrait.)
>
>as i also said, the association of A-S figure style and that found in the
>Chartres ms drawing is my own very preliminary thought, which may or may not
>prove to be a valid one, which is based upon my own kinky reading of the style
>and the already rather well established links between manuscripts from
>traditions connected with Fleury (or Chartres) and with the Anglo-Saxon ms
>tradition of which the Chartres/Fleury ms is, apparently, one example --among
>several-- an of an Anglo-Saxon influence at Fleury which began, at least, in
>the time of Abbot Abbo (988-1004), who traveled to, lived and taught in
>England.
>
> >my two bits. you decide value.
>
>fully worth a quarter.
>
>viday soupra.
>
>thanks, Rebecca.
>
>c
>
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