medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Rebecca LR Garber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Questio eins:
looks like a hyphen to me, fwiw.
wwiw [worth's what it's worth], that and $5.00 will get you a cupa coffee at
almost any Starbucks on the planet.
you are definitly in the majority, among the responses which i've had to this
question so far.
>questio zwei:
There is, in the *Leben und Offenbarungen Adelheid Langmann*, a female head
sketched into the i in the word ich. This is not at the beginning or end of
the ms, but rather in the middle, on a folio on which ich appears in the top
line. No desk, book, etc, just a head. Due to context, I would like to read
it as a self portrait of the scribe.
If you're interested, I can find the salient info.....I don't know if a) my
image would scan well or b) what the Staatsbibliothek Berlin would have to say
about it, probably a lot, most of it negative.
no need to get the Staatsbibliothekpolitzei on your case, Rebecca.
as i just indicated to Professor Brunner, my interest is very narrow and i am
only trying to get an idea about how common (or not) such self-portraits are
generally.
your example is statistically significant, but quite late, i assume (?).
also, it doesn't --from your description-- to be *quite* as unequivocal an
example as the Chartres/Fleury one is :
http://www.ariadne.org/centrechartraine/mss/chartresmss/chartresms29-244v-rotbert.jpg
i mean, there really isn't any reasonable doubt about this one, is there?
(the ms in question is, mostly, a copy of Rufinus' translation of Josephus,
btw, so there's no question of a true author portrait.)
as i also said, the association of A-S figure style and that found in the
Chartres ms drawing is my own very preliminary thought, which may or may not
prove to be a valid one, which is based upon my own kinky reading of the style
and the already rather well established links between manuscripts from
traditions connected with Fleury (or Chartres) and with the Anglo-Saxon ms
tradition of which the Chartres/Fleury ms is, apparently, one example --among
several-- an of an Anglo-Saxon influence at Fleury which began, at least, in
the time of Abbot Abbo (988-1004), who traveled to, lived and taught in
England.
>my two bits. you decide value.
fully worth a quarter.
viday soupra.
thanks, Rebecca.
c
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