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Unless Hall has made a slip of the pen and means
another diocesan bishop who was in Canterbury at the
time, then he presumably means an assistant bishop
working under Archbishop Warham in the diocese.
Usually they were mendicants and held Irish sees or
titular sees "in partibus infidelum."
David Knowles gives a list in "The Religious Orders in
England" of those he had found from monastic orders,
but there were others. Most diocesan bishops employed
at least one, and some served in more than one
diocese.
They usually were friars and therefore lived in their
convents; seculars sometimes held canonries in the
cathedral of the diocese. The terms bishop and
archbishop are not infrequently interchanged by
writers referring to both Canterbury and York in this
period.
As a group they would repay study - there may well be
one, but I have not come accross it. Thompson's
"English Clergy in the later Middle Ages" discusses
them if I remember aright.
They were assistant bishops, and not suffragens in the
sense that is applied today in the Church of England -
i.e. a permanent post with a title, not bishops
employed on an ad hoc basis. This has applied since
the later part of Henry VIII's reign under the Act of
Parliament of 1538(I think that is the year) to
bishops with an English territorial title who work
under the diocesan - e.g. the Bishop of Dover as
suffragen to the Archbishop of Canterbury under that
Act. Strictly speaking all diocesan bishops are
suffragens to their Archbishop, and are addressed as
such in formal citations from the Archbishop as
Metropolitan.
Hall'a account is interesting in that it appears to
show an assistant bishop present at such an occasion
and not just someone sent out to take confirmtions and
ordinations as well as church consecrations in the
absence of the diocesan.
John Whitehead,
Oriel College,
Oxford
--- Al Magary <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval
> religion and culture
>
> Can anyone say if in the early 16C or thereabouts
> the archbishop
> of Canterbury would have a bishop serving under him?
> Hall's
> Chronicle (1550), referring to the arrival of
> Cardinal Wolsey
> (who was archbishop of York) on his way to Calais in
> 1521, says:
> "Thus passed he to Cantorbury where tharchbishop,
> and the bishop
> of Cantorbury and other prelates receiued him in
> pontificalibus
> and brought him to his lodgyng vnder Canape to the
> bishoppes
> palayce." (Henry VIII chapter, folio 87r). As
> well, was there
> both an archbishop's and a bishop's palace at
> Canterbury, or is
> Hall being sloppy?
>
> Thanks,
> Al Magary
>
>
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