Jill
Actually they just pleaded time constraints,
but Martin Duwell did file his intro from Iran and
net access is limited in such countries.
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Australian poetry
> Hi Hugh,
>
> Thanks for that snippet. But how would working from Iran make it harder
> to cull e-journals than Australian print ones, I wonder? I can't see
> Tehran having large stocks of Meanjin and Overland on hand. I presume
> it means internet access was limited in some way. I was told that
> e-journals weren't included because it was harder to distinguish which
> poets in them were Australian. The logic of that, if it was the case,
> defeats me. Either story seems a tad bizarre.
>
> Roll on a bigger 'best of' for 2004.
>
> Cheers,
> Jill
>
> On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 07:22 PM, Hugh Tolhurst wrote:
>
> > hi Jill
> >
> > Thanks from me too for that survey. The UQP Best of
> > Series will include electronic journals from 2004 - Their
> > exclusion may have had to do with first guest editor
> > working from Iran!
> >
> > best
> >
> > Hugh
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jill Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 11:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: Australian poetry
> >
> >
> >> I think there are problems with Landbridge and New Music that, for
> >> different reasons, would be pointless at this stage in the game to
> >> canvas. Though I could point to a whole heap of poets, many of them
> >> midcareer and, shall we say, eastern sea-board, who don't get a
> >> guernsey in either, unaccountably. The list is long, it's not just a
> >> 'few omissions'. But by their very nature anthologies are biased and
> >> selective and one always has to look beyond.
> >>
> >> There also a Peter Porter anthology as well as Les's and Tranter/Mead
> >> and a Gray/Lehmann one, and, yes, the classic Llewellyn/Hampton
> >> women's
> >> one and another women's one by Susan Lever. Apart from their problems,
> >> they are old now and much has happened and continues to happen, to
> >> state the bleeding obvious.
> >>
> >> The various supplements in o/s literary journals featuring Australian
> >> poets that Hugh mentions are useful, and there have been others, if
> >> they are still held in libraries, or maybe on line -
> >> - the Atlanta Review (US), Spring/Summer 2000 (Tranter edited)
> >> - Poetry (US) (yes, that famous old mag) Oct/Nov 1996 (Kinsella)
> >> - Poetry Review (UK) Spring 1999 (Kinsella )
> >> - Prism International (Can) Winter 2000 (Kinsella and Coral Hull)
> >> -an edition of Verse around 2000, I don't have it to hand, edited by
> >> Brian Henry.
> >>
> >> There's also an upcoming edition of Poetry International (straight
> >> outa
> >> San Diego, Mark) with a selection of Australian and New Zealand poets
> >> selected by Martin Harrison. It's due soonish, I think. And way back,
> >> Laurie Duggan did a supplement in the NZ journal Landfall, Spring 1995
> >> (a bit old now, that). There's enough stuff in them, and others I have
> >> probably missed, both by much younger and/or newer Australian poets as
> >> well as less lauded but excellent mid-career and older poets, to make
> >> a
> >> considerable and fascinating Salon des Refuses - although 'refuses'
> >> status is always fluid, isn't it. And some will always sit outside the
> >> anthology thing - happily unanthologisable and just getting on with
> >> it.
> >>
> >> I haven't seen the Best of from UQP that Hugh mentions. It's along the
> >> lines of that US series annual 'best ofs' - though such annuals were
> >> done many years ago in Australia. I have a problem with 'best' in the
> >> title and with some of the selection criteria (they did not consider
> >> poems in electronic journals) but I've heard some positive comments
> >> about it so it's worth a chase.
> >>
> >> Hope that's helpful.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Jill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 01:48 AM, Alison Croggon wrote:
> >>
> >>> At 8:37 AM +1000 21/9/03, Hugh Tolhurst wrote:
> >>>> Unfortunately
> >>>> his Landbridge wasn't a great success (a bit of a rush
> >>>> job, I thought in the ARB review I wrote). There's
> >>>> a John Leonard anthology I don't like much, and the
> >>>> quirky Calyx: 30 Contemporary Australian Poets edited
> >>>> by Mike Brennan and Peter Minter.
> >>>
> >>> Sure, there are problems with Landbridge, but it's a good,
> >>> informative cross section of what's around. Same with the Leonard
> >>> anthology (which one? there are a couple) - different quibbles with
> >>> the broader one, its claim to inclusiveness which amounts to a lack
> >>> of direction, though it has its virtues, some interesting younger
> >>> poets. The Tranter-Meade one also has problems: real questions there
> >>> about women and indigenous writing. There's also an OUP around
> >>> edited by Murray. And a classic Penguin anthology edited by Susan
> >>> Hawthorne of Australian women's poetry, which fills in some of the
> >>> gaps, and was revelatory when I read it first, ten years ago or so.
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>>
> >>> A
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alison Croggon
> >>>
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> >>> http://alisoncroggon.blogspot.com
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
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