This sounds decidedly like Laura Kipnis, of whom we have been hearing so
much lately.
Dominic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anton Brassiere" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: Snapshot 9/24/03 choice/consent
> I found this quote, which I thought was quite apt, though they neglected
to
> state the author:
>
> "Marriage is less the unimpeded coming together of true minds than the
final
> acceptance of the individual's complete surrender to co-dependency and
thus
> the inevitable abjection and alienation from the self. Marriage does not
> just 'reflect' the structures within society, it is the very seed of
> society's ability to disseminate and reproduce itself. Marriage is a worm,
a
> virus."
>
> - Anton Brassiere
>
>
>
> >From: Ken Wolman <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry
and
> > poetics <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Snapshot 9/24/03 choice/consent
> >Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:44:09 -0400
> >
> >Deborah Russell wrote:
> >
> > > No one can honestly say they "knew what they were getting into",
unless
> >they
> > > kept
> > > their fingers crossed. Even in long term relationships, once married,
> >you
> > > discover
> > > how impractical and undependable your perspectives were and are.
> >
> >Another (unnecessary?) bit of autobio. I was a lapsed Jew who became a
> >terrible
> >Catholic who has recently reaffirmed by commitment to the Jewish faith
into
> >which I was born. Some people find religion utterly irrelevant: I find
it
> >central to figuring out who I am, a task that may take me to somewhere
> >beyond
> >the grave. In any case, during my six-year run with the Catholic Church
I
> >had a
> >Jesuit spiritual director who suggested I should really obtain a Church
> >annulment of my marriage, if for no other reason than to give me some
sort
> >of
> >closure. "What am I going to claim for grounds after 28 years and two
> >children,
> >non-consummation?" I asked.
> >
> >He asked me "How old were you when you got married?"
> >
> >"I'd just turned 25. She was still 24."
> >
> >"How did you feel about her?"
> >
> >"We were mad about each other."
> >
> >"Did you understand the meaning of the commitment? Did you understand
how
> >love
> >changes over time and that you would have to readjust constantly to
> >maintain
> >both love and commitment?"
> >
> >"I understood nothing. Neither of us did. No counseling, no Jewish
> >version of
> >pre-Cana, nothing."
> >
> >"There you are," the priest said. "Ignorance of the meaning of marriage.
> >Your
> >grounds."
> >
> >Fr. Hallinan was a pretty sharp guy but I didn't do it anyway.
> >
> > > I gave up the term "a good marriage" except for practical application.
> >
> >Even marriages made in Heaven work themselves out on earth and, without
> >tending,
> >they can go from there straight to Hell.
> >
> >Ken
> >--
> >Kenneth Wolman
> >Proposal Development Department
> >Room SW334
> >Sarnoff Corporation
> >609-734-2538
>
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