JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for PHD-DESIGN Archives


PHD-DESIGN Archives

PHD-DESIGN Archives


PHD-DESIGN@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

PHD-DESIGN Home

PHD-DESIGN Home

PHD-DESIGN  2003

PHD-DESIGN 2003

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Post New Message

Post New Message

Newsletter Templates

Newsletter Templates

Log Out

Log Out

Change Password

Change Password

Subject:

On-line conference, Session 1: Rust

From:

"Rust, Chris" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Rust, Chris

Date:

Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:32:29 -0000

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (101 lines)

Reply

Reply

Thank you Richard for sharing your experience and ideas, and also for giving us all the opportunity to see the great weight of detail in
your project.  I envy the freedom you have in starting from scratch, not least because my university is currently trying to achieve
something similar by bringing together several existing schools and programmes with the all the difficulties of history and habit that you
point to.

 

As a member of a traditional school of art and design that found itself in a university by a complex and politically prescribed route, I
recognise the intellectual challenges that Richard and others have pointed to, but it will not surprise anybody to find that my perspective
is a little different (complementary I hope).

 

I share Richard’s observation that the many kinds of designing have great similarities and much common ground, and we have much to gain from
exploring these.  I certainly regard this as an important part of my own work.  However this concern with common ground and the challenge of
developing it does carry the danger of ignoring those things that distinguish the different fields of study concerned.  This was evident to
me in Richard’s statement:

 

“I view this situation as one in which design is now crossing a major threshold from craft to (dare I say it?) science or engineering.”

 

Firstly I am worried by the inclusion of “engineering” since it is also one of the disciplines that Richard rightly points to as having made
the same journey ahead of us.  I suggest that the non-engineering design disciplines are valuable precisely because they offer something
different from and complementary to engineering.

 

“Science” is a different matter of course and many have proposed a new “science of design” which is what I read into the UCI agenda.  Ken
Friedman has argued that a science of design would be a new synthesis of methods and ideas appropriate to the field and not merely a
redirecting of the efforts of the social and natural sciences and I am very happy with that.  However Richard pays some attention to Herbert
Simon who is frequently cited in this context so, to balance that, I would draw attention to Victor Margolin’s (1998) critique of Herbert
Simon’s idea of a science of design.  Margolin characterised Simon as disdainful of design’s “cookbook” methods and reliance on judgement
and experience, suggesting that this was a measure of Simon’s location in engineering and over-concern with the idea of systematising
(mechanising?) design process.

 

I don’t see anything wrong with designers taking an atomistic approach to specific problems that arise in their work but I would be worried
if we saw that as the primary route for shaping or understanding the work of designing.  For me the thing that most characterises effective
designing is an ability to identify connections and ideas arising from complex situations and work with them in their complex whole form.  I
regard this as important, not only in seeking an understanding of designing but also as an indication of where designers might themselves
make a contribution to knowledge.

 

Thomas Rasmussen described his situation which is an approach to research for design taken by a number of universities, particularly where
the migration to university status is managed by an agenda framed outside the design school.  I hope he won’t mind me describing him as a
“hired gun” when I suggest that the over-reliance on such hired guns is a danger, equal to the risk in suggesting that designers can make
the transition unaided.  My school, being largely free of any external vision of how we might develop a research culture, has taken a rather
different approach in seeking to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and, while this is difficult and imperfect, it has allowed us to start
to identify a role for designers in the knowledge-creation community that is quite different from the general perception in these
discussions.

 

Our view is that those things that differentiate designing from the established sciences make it interesting and valuable in a
multi-disciplinary world, including the role of craft in framing and examining ideas.  Sometimes we seem surrounded by people who imagine
that they can uproot designing from the culture that has sustained it thus far (arguably with a great deal of success), reshape it to match
their own pre-occupations and yet still retain its value and vigour.

 

So I hope that UCI can balance Thomas’ suggestion of hiring more guns in from other disciplines with my view that we need to support
designers in working out their own way forward, and along the way ask what designers can provide that other disciplines need. Michael
Polanyi (1958) asserted the importance of the leap of the imagination that allows scientists to identify and approach new problems in their
work and it seems that the conventions of science often mask that vital part of their work.  At present designers have no problem with
putting such leaps, and the skills needed to realise them at the forefront of their thinking. I hope we can use this focus to help mobilise
the creative potential of all the disciplines engaged with shaping the artificial rather than emphasising a more dismal, and less central
dimension of the study of design.

 

I could say more, especially about the need for people with a practitioner’s insight to nurture the development of young designers (do we
need people to pump in theory or people to support individual exploration?) but I’ll leave that for another day.

 

Margolin, V. (1998) “History, theory, and criticism in doctoral design education”, Doctoral Education in Design: Proceedings of the Ohio
Conference 8-11 October 1998

Polanyi, M. (1958) “Personal Knowledge: Towards a Post-Critical Philosophy” London, Routledge, p123

 

Best wishes from Sheffield,

Chris Rust

*****************************************

Professor Chris Rust

Art and Design Research Centre,

Sheffield Hallam University, UK

[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager