Jon,
Thanks for the pointer!
His effort hasn't every show nup in my radar. He's been affiliated with
the Science, Technology, and Society department at Stanford since 1983.
If you look at his publications, he started as a hardcore fluids engineer
with a stint working for NASA in their windtunnel research at Ames.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/STS/wgvworks.shtml
In the early 80's you see his work moving towards history of technology and
synthesizing lessons from across the practice of engineering.
Sounds like a fascinating individual and I appreciate the pointer to his work.
Thanks,
John
At 03:48 PM 2/10/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>John,
>
>Actually, although I am in the education/instructional arena Walter Vincenti
>is very much product design and industrial. He is emeritus from the Department
>of Aeronautics and Astronautics at Stanford. That is why I thought that he
>would be known given the ties to the Design Research Society.
>
>Jon
>
> >===== Original Message From John Feland <[log in to unmask]> =====
> >My guess is that Jon Nelson, coming from an Instructional Design
> >background, is speaking of topics in Learning Design.
> >
> >Being a newbie myself, I am under the impression that this listserv tends
> >to focus on product design and industrial design, given it's ties to the
> >Design Research Society.
> >
> >Currently living in between the Edu Design community and the Product Design
> >community, I see shared histories of evolved methods and theories that only
> >recently are becoming aware of the other.
> >
> >One thing is for sure, they both use "design" to represent similar but at
> >times different concepts.
> >
> >I have seen groups initially nod heads in agreement at the beginning of the
> >conversation since they were all using the same words but then erupt into
> >lively discussions when all parties realize the meanings being conveyed are
> >radically different.
> >
> >Comments?
> >
> >John Feland
> >Center for Design Research
> >Stanford University
> >
> >
> >
> >At 04:06 PM 2/10/2003 -0600, Joe Hadar wrote:
> >>I have to admit I've never heard of Vincenti, but no surprise there. What
> >>I've looked up today has me curious. Operational principles and normal
> >>configurations sounds vaguely like, form follows function.
> >>
> >>Can you give me a brief primer on professor Vincenti's ideas? I take it he
> >>is interested in the messiness of design, versus the perceived simplicity
> >>when viewing design as history. He appears to be focused mainly on
> >>aeronautical engineering.
> >>
> >>I think this relates in a way to a different discussion about the future of
> >>the cell phone. Undoubtedly, in hindsight, the cell phone of 2050 will seem
> >>obvious, but to those of us around today, it is still a mystery. And who
> >>knows how many new technologies (EG. blue tooth) will promise one advantage
> >>and deliver something entirely unexpected.
> >>
> >>Joe H.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhDs in Design
> >>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jon Nelson
> >>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:00 AM
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: just wondering
> >>
> >>
> >>Last week I sent out an email on the topic of a thread I thought was an
> >>active
> >>thread: Generative Ideas. It looked like there had been considerable
> >>discussion on the issue. However, I am new to the list and that was the
> >>first
> >>email I received as a new member. I was asking for anyone's input on Walter
> >>Vincenti's work with Operational Principles and Normal Configurations and
> >>how
> >>they think his ideas work as a generative principle.
> >>
> >>I am curious to know why I haven't received any responses? Is my question
> >>way
> >>off topic? Is Vincenti taboo on this list? I am struggling to
> understand why
> >>no one has even commented... even so much as to tell me that I am a bit
> >>touched! Just wondering!
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Jon Nelson
> >>Instructional Designer
> >>Utah State University
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