Hi Martin
Would this be Danby Level?
I have notice there has been quite a lot of activity here after being
featured in a TV programme about the Dales. I was there a few weeks ago and
the portal has been opened wider then first I saw it three to four years
ago.
Regards
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Roe" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: horse winding
> Having just recorded an underground gin chamber in Arkengarthdale i have
> been asking very similar questions. In this case the gin has long gone but
> by recording the position of timbers sockets and a pile of "organic
matter"
> on the floor, (yes 200 year old horse manure), it has been possible to
> locate the position of the vertical center post and the horse track around
> it.
>
> The horse track at about 6m diameter is almost haf the diameter of surface
> sites which are on avarage about 11m dia. The gin was mounted off center
> which allows extra space to one side which apears to be where the gin
driver
> sat on a shale ledge. The gin chamber is linked to the shaft via an eye
hole
> at roof level which suggest that the drum was probably above the horses
> head, which as has already been suggested would create more space to turn
> the animal around. It is probably better to think about the horse being a
> pony. These can have quite a small turning circle (able to turn around in
> the space of a stable) and if a wisbone yoke is used this would be easily
> achieved without the need for complicated engineering.
>
> The size of the rope drum is something which could affect the amount of
> space below. If the rope is simply winding on and off the drum this would
> need to be bigger (deeper) than one where a reciprocating system is used
> with one end down the shaft when the other is at the top.
>
> I don't think though that the Cornish can take the credit for designing
gins
> more likely that they came from Europe (see De Re Mettallica). They were
> certainly widespread in coal mining areas, but then most people forget
that
> there were more "Cornish" engine houses in the coalfields than in Cornwall
> and that many technologies applied to metal mining had already been tried
> and tested on coal mines.
>
>
> Martin Roe
>
>
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