I first apologize to jump in this discussion without bothering to read
what has been going on in this discussion before.
History is being made. The images on the Television might be crude in
nature but they are more powerful than any cinema which I have seen.
It is a Crusade.
TK
On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 10:29 PM, Blair Miller wrote:
> I agree with Mr. Santander, in his question re- where to draw the line
> on 'freedom' as an impetus for destruction of a nation. I ask you:
> Which nation is comprised of citizens (though their visions of it may
> differ in scope) who are against freedom? Who, really, is against
> freedom, even on the awfully abstract level the current president has
> procured as his cause? (And, how are preemptive strikes emblematic of
> freedom, apart from the dangerous view of negative freedom, freedom
> from any restrictions whatsoever?)
>
> However, I must differ on one account: Truth is far from a mere ideal.
> It is, definitionally, reality. Ask a dismembered Iraqi next week if
> he/she doesn't believe in the truth of it all. Or, ask the citizens of
> Los Angeles if they did not see the footage of Rodney King as
> true. (Filmed footage, no less, bundled up with all of our film theory
> and typical anxieties about perspectivism and relativism of the image
> that we 'theorists' hold too closely to our collective vest.) In fact,
> it had to be true, true to the law, lest those wrongly pardoned remain
> 'innocent.' One of the dangers of truth is that when distilled by its
> witnesses through a desire for relativism, it can avail itself of
> ethical judgement. This is the sort of mode(s) of truth that we shall
> become ever more familiar with in the coming weeks. This is a crude
> characterization of 'truth,' y! es, but the truth is nothing if not
> crude.
>
>
>
> >From: Hugo Santander
>
> >Reply-To: Film-Philosophy Salon
>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
>
> >Subject: Re: The Iraq War
>
> >Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:12:41 +0000
>
> >
>
> >We can ask ourselves about the truth or objectivity of this incoming
>
> >war.
>
> >But as truth is an ideal concept, we can only rely on our ethical
>
> >perception
>
> >of the world.
>
> >
>
> >The relevant point, then, is to ask ourselves whether this is a fair
>
> >or
>
> >unfair war. The relatives of the first dead soldiers may also ask
>
> >themselves
>
> >about the purpose of this invasion.
>
> >
>
> >By the was, is it really for the sake of 'freedom'? Who draws the
>
> >line
>
> >between freedom and prosperity?
>
> >
>
> >Hugo N. Santander
>
> >
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