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Re: after a longish silence

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Rebecca Seiferle <[log in to unmask]>

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Rebecca Seiferle <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 29 Dec 2003 02:29:42 -0700

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Well, given the "jocking" and other erroneous (to me)
comparisons, I wanted to chime in about your poem, Alison.
I like very much its musing upon being , have kept thinking
of it since I read it, and am glad for your posting it.

One of the things I like about this is that it manages to
suggest both a genuine questioning which could wander
off in any direction and a sensibility always drawing the question
back to the preoccupations of the self, so that the wondering
"what does it matter" if one is dreaming or waking which
seems an open question is also directed, most subtlely
back to that sensibility in which the element in both dreaming
and waking is "pain, " rather than the so many other elements
possible in either state.

So the poem unravels as a questioning
that works in several directions, whether it is "my own
damage" or a "wound torn in others" and yet each veering
off into an apparently other direction doubles back upon
itself, so then the "wound torn in others" comes back to
the self "that they must diagnose/ through my skin," and
as a musings of a particular, if somewhat oblique and subtle,
sensibility. Evoking not only the play between one and others,
but upon the others in oneself, the fictional selves, all of
whom reveal and veil the particular sensibility who sees
them all in a sense through the I/eyeglass of suffering. The
'pain' in dreaming and waking, the wound torn in others or
the damage in oneself,  the painted actress who "blinks" "blackening
tears of no response." The poem so questions the fictions of
the self but not the sense of suffering which is mysterious and
compelling, to that sensibility as if it were "behind" the word.

It's at times very sharp,
in its "speaking like a bad novel" and "endless museums
of self-regard," and I like that sense of consciousness as
a "a finger on this pulse," that so bodily sense, that is
sensuous and full of sense, in that last image, including
the "snail absorbing rain." It's quite compelling, so much
so that I was almost persuaded that it doesn't matter
if one is awake or not, almost not noticing that the sensibility
had so framed 'her' argument that the hinge that makes
it not matter is pain, since if one suffers in any world, what
world does it matter that one inhabits?

Best,

Rebecca

Rebecca Seiferle
www.thedrunkenboat.com

from Alison Croggon:

behind the baroque
        mask a blankness
inflicting itself in concentric circles
                        she asks:

is this really my own damage
        or a wound torn in others
that they must diagnose
                        through my skin

predictable as a tragedy
        leached of all colours
in which the painted actress
                        pouts and blinks

such blackening tears that all response chokes
        on the absurd
ancient seductions
                        smudging the heart

and again:      finally
        in the yellow dusk I understand
how a book opened prematurely
                        might be a fatality

dazzling the mind's innocence
        so it forms a mirage
populous and exact in every detail
                        while the desert breathes

livingly beneath it
        cheated of the eye
she asks again:     what is more real
                        the life formed

out of our delusions
        in all its tender
quickness of flesh    or the vast
                        desiring cell

that mindless replication
        swarming itself
out of its decay:     or is this
                        not a question

the torment is always     as the woman said
        to find oneself speaking
like a bad novel    though fiction is seldom
                        so misleading

as these selves we claim
        to live by     squatting
by middens of bones the sand
                        scours to whiteness

damasks of civilisation
        woven by ill-used hands
rotting in those endless museums
                        of self regard

et cetera      she asks:
        if I have been asleep
how do the pains of dream
                        differ from waking

and how much does it matter?
        this finger on this pulse
conscious as a snail
                absorbing rain

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